Mother Superia (Savannah Jones) on THC - #79

THE HEIR CAST EP. 79 — MOTHER SUPERIA

Before Miami was “Miami”… it was The Bottom.
And the woman who coined that? Sitting right here.

On this episode of The Heir Cast, we tap in with legendary MC Mother Superia — a true pioneer of South Florida hip-hop — as she breaks down her journey, her impact, and the history they don’t teach you.

We dive into:

• The REAL story behind her time with record labels
  
  
• Getting co-signs from legends like KRS-One & Redman
  
  
• The current state of female artists in hip-hop (and what’s missing)
  
  
• What it was like coming up as a woman in a male-dominated era
  
  
• Her dream 90’s features 👀
  
  
• AND somehow… she schools OfficialHeir on Good Times lore like a professor with tenure 😂
  
  

This episode isn’t just about music — it’s about legacy, truth, and the woman behind the mic: Savannah Jones aka Mother Superia.

If you care about hip-hop history, Miami culture, or just love a real conversation… this one is mandatory viewing.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Because music, words, all of that can d dictate how you feel. Music can make you feel sexual. Music can make you feel like you want to fucking go blow a nigga head off. Um South Day. Um South Day, ghouls, perhaps, cutleridge, Kendall, all of that. That's us linear for me. Because I know some people do write to get that hit record. They want to uh, you know, make sure that the hook is where it's supposed to be and it's saying what it's supposed to say and delivering da da da da, whatever, whatever. But you know, I want to write where I'm just being creative and I don't have a destination.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

This is what we're doing.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

There are a lot of words like that. Fun fact be steak is supposedly isn't a real word, it's actually a mispronunciation of Latino saying beefsteak. And it eventually they just society just accepted be steak and they're like, yeah, let's just make it a thing. Be steak. It's really beef steak, but it's it's a mispronunciation of Spanish people saying beef steak. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, another one too, just like that, is is pullover. I I never to me a pullover is pullover, you know, on the side of the street. But Amer I guess uh yeah, so uh white people think, you know, an American thing is a pullover is a shirt, a shirt you pull over your head.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

T-shirt used to be pullover.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

My whole life sweatshirt is a t-shirt. I'm in pullover. I just recently learned like in the last two years it's it's it's just another mispronunciation like the big thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

They're in life and the heavy influence that America had on Cuba.

SPEAKER_03 1:47

America and Cuba big influence is facts.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

That's why when we delta, you made an issue.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Well, that's what we do here on the aircast. You learn or you laugh, sometimes you do a little bit of both. But today we're honored because we have a pioneer, a true queen, somebody who really opened the lane for lyrical dominance, authenticity, and really just honestly, in a male industry dominated world, she really opened the lane for women, for females. So this is incredible. This is a huge honor to have Mother Superior on the show, on the aircast. Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Okay, I'm here, I'm with you. I'm ready to vibe with you. Whatever it is you want to do, we're doing that.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Well, we're doing it. This is it right now. I'm manifesting it, and I'm just happy you're here. Um, thank you so much for vibing. We are you're you're local still, you're still here. Are you out of time?

SPEAKER_01 2:36

I'm actually in Atlanta, but I came to town for the art of hip-hop event.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Actually, we'll play along. How was the event? Somewhere in the future.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Listen, the event was so fucking good. I mean, the MCs was dope. Orion did his thing.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

I didn't know he had Shout out O Brass Balls, episode 30, right here.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

Yes. Listen, I forgot he had bars like that, but he showed it, show up, and show out. That part.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

Highly a Chico shit. Real highly a TSC shit.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Not the Chicos, not the Chico.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

We out here, we out here, we out here. Um, so here on the Aircast, we start with the important questions because the Air Force, the world, the fans, the industry, everybody wants to know. When did the superior skills start? When was the first time you started rapping? Do you remember the first time you tried to literally put together like a verse? Or was it was you freestyling before? Like what was it?

SPEAKER_01 3:26

Well, let me tell you what I used to do. Okay. So uh I had an alphabet rhyme. So for every letter of the alphabet, I had a word to go with it, and I made a whole rhyme to it. So that was my very first rhyme. A is for awesome, B for bust this, C for coward females, that's jealous of this, D for Devastate, and E for everybody, F for all the fellas that's here at the party. Get so anyway, that's you know that's incredible. I think that that is the very first rhyme that I ever wrote. So that part.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

That part. Honestly, I think that should be a rite of passage for everybody that wants to get into music. I think you should challenge yourself to rhyme like that. Just go from A to Z first.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

A to Z, A to Z. That's how that's how you know you got it.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

And if you really want to know you got it, you do like what Papoose did after and you flip it backwards. You go A to Z and the Z to A.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

That's how you know, indeed.

SPEAKER_03 4:20

And then so was the was the first rap name always Mother Superior? Or was it superior first? No.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

I mean, okay, so uh, you know, everybody was using their initials back in the day, so of course I was MC SLS, and for my government, those are my initials for my government name. So that was the first thing. Then I started MCM with another female, and her name was Supreme, so I was superior, and then you know, we separated, shit happens, right? Um, and then Mother Superior became about because I became a mother. Wow, shout out to Taj.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

So motherhood can brought that upon you.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Bought the Mother Superior together, so yes.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

And Taj is the firstborn.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Firstborn.

SPEAKER_03 5:03

Shout out, Taj, because y'all pick up my right here. Yes, that's cool. Awesome, awesome. Okay, and then so let's get let's get because we got a lot to get into today. This is a good idea. Let's get into it. Let's get into this the right way. Yes. So you you said you never felt like you were you were dreaming about making it, that you were always just living it, you were always just kind of going through it.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Yes, you know, a lot of times I hear people say stuff like, you know, I am hip-hop, or I do hip-hop, or you know, I I do MCing, but it's a thing when you live in it, you're in the middle of it, you just doing what you do that makes you feel good, feel happy, feel, you know, like you can use that as a avenue for getting away from some of the struggles that you have in your life and stuff like that. You're just in the moment and you're doing it, doing it.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

That's so that's a that's a beautiful way to have it, though, because it's it's truly an outlet. Like I I'm blessed that my dads had me in music, you know, by force almost, even when I didn't want to make music when I thought I was gonna, you know, go be a major league player or whatever the hell it was. Um, so I've always been around it, and I do to this day look at music like a sport, but I think it's best when you look at it like an outlet. But I do see a lot of people nowadays where they look at it almost like it's their career, it's their business, it's life or death. And the reason I really brought this up is I wanted to maybe take a step back and see did you have any dreams before music? Because you've just you've been in it since young.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Well, the thing is what president superior?

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Like, there was there ever like a vision of that?

SPEAKER_01 6:32

No, I don't want to be the president, I'm president of my household. Okay, I don't need any more than that. But I was in nursing school. I thought I was gonna be a nurse. My mom was a nurse, she wanted her daughter to be a nurse, and I dropped right out of nursing school the minute I got that contract. I was like, mama, I ain't going to school. I'm finna, you know, I'm doing, yeah, peace. I'm doing this. Um, so uh I think that it's not that I had another idea in mind. I think I did not have an idea. So it was very free-flowing, and I went with what life was giving me at the time, the steps that I was taking, the folks that I was introduced to, and um, you know, befriending and all of that, I was going with the flow and it brought me to where I was.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Organically, you gotta you can't force it in life, yeah. You gotta let things come. Um 2080, you know, life's you know, 80% of what happens to you, no, 20% of what happens to you, 80% how you respond to it.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

So yes, that part. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

And who exactly Savannah Jones?

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Oh, okay. So that's my alter ego. So when I left Miami, I ended up in Atlanta, and uh um, yeah, I started doing music with Child M C, my brother from another mother. I'm gonna shout you out, Child MC, okay. We uh connected, started doing some music, and I just didn't want to do it under the guise of Mother Superior. I had gone through a lot of different things at that point, and I really wanted to make some music that uh tapped into my spiritual in here and outward, and uh, we did that together, and I said I'm gonna do it on the Savannah Jones, and it's weird because Savannah Jones is a character from good times. Okay, so if you've ever seen good times and you see the pimp and he got his main her name Savannah Jones, and she was in good times, so it's weird to have a whole Mother Superior, you know, with that name title and what that looks like and what people think about. And then now we got Savannah Jones, who uh, you know, truly an alter ego. It's truly an alter ego.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Wow, great parallel. That's actually cool. I'm not familiar with good like I for Good Times is JJ, right? Dynamite, right? Yeah, you are that's my familiarity with good times.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Yeah, Janet Jackson was on good times. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03 8:55

Yeah, as like a uh a side character, like she was like a like a recurring character, she was one of the main casts, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

She was penny. There you go. See her daddy knows. Yes, yes, put Janet in there. So, yeah, that part.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Wow, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Okay, and do you have a favorite Good Times episode? I think it was probably when Wallona got in Penny's mom's ass because she wasn't a good mom and she was abusing her and doing all of that. And Walona was like, You're not taking my baby, this is my baby. So that part. That was my shit.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

That's a powerful show. That's crazy. I got okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Most of the shows back then were like that and had a message.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

She was kind of neglecting the penny a little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

And Wallona ended up adopting her and all of that. But yeah, Michael Jackson's little sister, Penny. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Can I say this? The mom in good times, she rocked a bata casa.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

What's the bata casa?

SPEAKER_01 9:50

What is that?

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Cubans call it like the gown she would wear.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Oh, nightgown. Listen, Bata de Casa.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

Okay, we're gonna draw a picture of the Bata Casa here.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

So like I love good times for that.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Hey, that's how that's that's how you got here, baby. That's the inside nightgown. Dad is like that, you know, for grown women. I'm just gonna go, yes, yes, come in the house. He'd be like, she in the kitchen with that, what you call it? Yeah, she got that shit on. So dad is like, yeah, let me go on and pay this um mortgage and you know, all of that. How you doing, baby? So that part, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

Good. Um, and then kind of circling back to um the the artists we were talking about, the the the people who are just getting into music that they're now doing their homework of doing the A to Z right now. Let's talk to them a little bit. What's your creative process like maybe originally, or what's it like now? Uh so like are are are are you writing before a beat? Do you do do you just straight write verses? How's that go?

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, I think my process is still the same as it's always been when I was I need a lot of privacy, you know. I don't want to be uh disturbed, I want to be able to close the door and yeah, I get the beat and I write to the beat because I want it to fit in the groove really well with whatever my cadence is and all of that kind of stuff. So I never write a song and be like, oh, let me see if it'll fit on this track. Like, that's not gonna happen. Right. I need to beat first and then I'm gonna write to it because again, I want it to be in the pocket when I'm doing what I do or whatever, and that has not changed. So that's still the way that I like to write. I like to be alone and I need to beat first.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

And let's let's break that down a little bit further, though. So, like, are are we going straight for like how does the mind work? Are you thinking lyrics first? Are we thinking harmonies, melodies first, then lit loading it with lyrics after? Like, how does that go?

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Well, I really don't work that way, per se. I mean, I'm not creating the hook first, I'm kind of writing and then.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Writing writing in general, not writing, not necessarily.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Well, when I'm getting the meat of the song, the meat of the song for me is gonna dictate what the hook is gonna be or what a bridge is gonna be. So, really, my focus is the meat of the song, my lyrics, you know, and then everything else is kind of fashioned around that. So when you say meat, are you thinking verse?

SPEAKER_03 12:21

Are you thinking the message overall of the song?

SPEAKER_01 12:23

The concept, the concept, the message, and what the verse is gonna include versed on based on what the concept is for it.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

So is the thought process like I guess because technically you would argue uh you a lot of people argue that the chorus is most important because you hear it three times over and over, but the part of the beat maybe you hear the most of a song is the verse kind of like is that what it is? Is that because are you listening? Let's let's put put ourselves in the studio. You're listening to the beat, you're uh apparently listening for the verse.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

I'm not even listening for either or I'm not listening for the verse. What I'm doing is allowing the music to dictate what I'm going to say. You know, I'm not like trying to manipulate the beat and make it into something. Got it. I pick the beat. Like I got 50 beats, and I need to figure out which one of these beats talk to me.

SPEAKER_03 13:18

Talks to you, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:18

And then it's like, okay, now I got the beat, I'm feeling it. And what does it make me want to say? So I'm going with what the beat is pouring into me. I'm not trying to fashion it into a thing, although it ends up being that at the end.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Afterwards, afterwards, yeah. It's because there's a technical part of music, of course, with everything in life, but there's also it's very soulful and it's very or like we're saying organic, not to say the same word over and over, but it's it's almost spiritual, you know, not to sound corny, but it's like you have to be very in tune. Like I write records and then I don't sometimes I go a year or two without recording them, but within that year or two, I'm practicing it over and over, rewriting it, figuring out different ways to say the verse, differing out different ways to say the bar, different, you know, maybe switch the bar in that time. And the only way I do that is by being in my room, being in my car. So I have playlists with just beats, and I just, you know, I'm like, oh, let me just do that verse. And now I'm getting to the point where I have a memorized software.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Yeah, it's just really letting the vibe. And I like when you said that it is spiritual because music, words, all of that can dictate how you feel. Music can make you feel sexual, music can make you feel like you want to fucking go blow a nigga head off. Happy music can make you feel happy, heartbroken, it yeah, all of that.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

Or all kinds of shit.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Yeah, it is a very spiritual thing. So I think when you're for me, because I know some people do write to get that hit record, they want to uh, you know, make sure that the hook is where it's supposed to be and it's saying what it's supposed to say and delivering da-da-da-da, whatever, whatever. But you know, I want to write where I'm just being creative and I don't have a destination for what it is that I'm trying to do. I'm just doing some music and I hope nigga, you know, folks gonna fuck with it. Yes, you know, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

That's that's really an important way to kind of end that little uh topic because that's my favorite thing about music. I I love when I'm in the studio with people or not even just vibing when people thinking about songs, and then I have to remind myself and people sometimes like there's no rules to it, it don't matter. My favorite example is Bobby Schmir. He had a hit record, just a long ass verse, no chorus, no nothing, nothing, nothing. So, like there's no rules to it. What works works, and you just gotta create. Don't let the restrictions and the societal you know rules put you in a box. Like, that's not that's not the vibe, that's not what creativity is, that's not what art is.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

It's never supposed to be like it's not, and it shouldn't be rushed, it should not be uh again where you're trying to uh make it fit in a box of something, like yeah, I don't want to do that. That's not my process.

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Facts. Okay, so then can we paint the picture of the parallel of the Miami Bay scene versus basically the Miami hip-hop scene at the same exact time in like 90 to 95 era?

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

So there like what's what's the parallel between that time when because a lot of people may or may not know, like, Miami was known for like Uncle Luke and the booty shaking stuff, and like that's all it was for a long time to the outside world. When you had, you know, I'm sure like a lot of people, you know, in here that felt otherwise were like, nah, like we're spitting for real, like that's not what it is. Yes. So what can can you maybe tell me your POV on that, like your perspective on what that was at that time?

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Well, I think that every contribution is to be respected. Because I mean, what Luke brought to the table, um, you know, is his art form. You know what I'm saying? And it's legendary and it did a lot of stuff. And changed music for everybody, by the way. Yeah, freedom of speech. Yeah, freedom of speech, that part.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

Um, but the 90s era between tell me, ask me one more time, because you know I really just want to like I really want to paint like a picture and set up like basically like like an audio movie for the audience for those that might not be aware of what the parallel is for like the real hip-hop scene, like people that are really about the bars and the lyricism, and maybe what like I guess you could consider mainstream, what the whole world is probably looking at Miami at the time, which is the the Miami bass music, the you know, the the Yeah, and I think stuff.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

I think that we are still having that same issue. I mean, not that it's an issue, I mean, there is uh there are powers that be that kind of control what um what music looks like in general, you know what I mean? The stuff that people regularly consume that's considered mainstream music, um, and what they have dictated will be what Miami looks like, and it's gonna look like booty shake, it's gonna look like, yeah, that whole thing you got South Beach and da da da and all of that, but yet, like anywhere else, there's always a scene that stuff didn't just come out of nowhere because I mean, prior to Luke, and we were kind of talking about this a little bit before, um, you know, we have artists like Luan Love, the Gucci crew, that people don't know about if you weren't here from Miami. You know, maybe some places like Atlanta, since, you know, as in the words of CeeLo, Atlanta, they used to call Atlanta Little Miami because those that's a regional kind of sound, but not national. Wow. So uh, I mean, uh, Miami has a lot of other stuff, and I'm sure like a lot of other cities do that have been labeled with a thing, but there's a whole bunch of roots that run deep in the ground, yeah, that people are not aware of.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

And don't get me wrong, this is a good problem to have. You want your city to have, you know, so much culture that there's different, you know, sides of music, different branches of music, you know, as opposed to a city that is devoid of music culture at all. Um, but really, I I kind of want to brought so like because you come out with rock bottom at a time like that, and like that's not like at a time where music in Miami specifically, and especially for women, like it's like is that maybe I I was come wanted to come more at it, like, is that a reason why you maybe made a record like that?

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Is is that like no? I think I think that really it was the people that I'm with. Miami is a very, very diverse city, so you're gonna have all kinds of black people, um, West Indian, um, um, Cuban black folks, it's a melting pot. You have Latinos that are here that whatever people that move here from New York and they've come here. So I think that because of the time that I was living in, which I think was pretty iconic, there were so many people doing so many things. People were coming here to perform. Um, Wu Tang clan was here performing before they even blew the fuck up. Niggas didn't even know who the fuck these niggas was. No, yeah, Madonna.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

And even outside of Hipot, Madonna was right in High Lee and strawberries, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Listen, and strawberries Casanovas, and you gotta think about it, people don't even know what the fuck the strawberries is, but that is a very historic, significant part, legendary part of the city of Miami, more than just that South Beach shit. You know what I mean? So I think because we uh have done so much leading up to it, I think I don't know, I just feel like the circles that I was running in and the energy and the vibe that Miami was when I was doing what I was doing, the music that I created was fucking appropriate. No, 100% and necessary most importantly necessary because people were out here freestyle sessions, we at How Can I Be Down, sneaking in to get in, doing all of that, battling cool G rap is that I mean it's just yeah, Miami's got a good history when it when it comes to some real hip-hop shit.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Yeah, and it's absolutely it's paying dividends now because now my generation, I'm blessed because when I was in high school 10 years ago, I I would be jealous of the shit I'd see online of New York and all these dope hip-hop scenes. And now the dirty five, this Miami underground scene, what's going on right now? I don't even like to call it underground. I it I call it the Miami hip-hop scene because it's it's the only scene. There's no mainstream Miami hip-hop scene. We are the Miami hip-hop scene. It's all these these shows going on weekly. It's it's it's it's so incredible to me. And it's honestly, it's it warms my heart a lot. But I kind of want to use that as uh kind of a stepping stone to ask you about uh this I don't know if rumor or not, it might be true or not. Shout out the general year fan. But he asked me to ask you about the time where there was I guess I don't want to say a beef, but is it true that North Miami versus South Miami hip hop scenes were kind of at odds?

SPEAKER_01 21:49

No, and that's it. Who who was I talking to? And they were asking me that. And the thing is, is that I didn't know there was such a thing. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I mean, I'm gonna be a candle.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Listen, listen.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

I'm from down south. So I mean, if it was a beef, I know I don't I don't know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

I love it, Lord.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Yeah, because the thing is the ghouls. I'm from Ghoul's gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Oh, okay. So that's not okay, got it. So you're yeah, so you're not necessarily either of these shots. You're like outside looking at the game. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I don't know what you're South Day. I'm South Day. I'm South Day. Ghoul's Paran, Cutler Ridge, Kindle, all of that. That's us. But you be loving North Day. But the thing is, is that I was moving around. I I didn't even know none of that shit was going on. Somebody else told me that. And I was like, nigga, what? I didn't know. I didn't I had no idea. I'ma just say I'm from down. I'ma just say I'm from down south. So if it was some shit going on, I was with them niggas. So I'ma just you have too much love in your heart. Well, the cool I have too hate. No hate though.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

No hate though. I bring this up from a place of positivity though. Cause to my understanding, this ended greatly because of you. Like you kind of diffused the whole situation because of your relationship with places like Science Room, which was from North Miami, and then Plat Beach from Kendall. So like to my understanding, you bridged the gap between these two. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Listen, I didn't even know I was bridging the gap. I thought most I thought everybody, I mean, it's it's music, and I mean I'm competitive too. So maybe I did know a little bit. This is the name of the game. You know, this is MCN. So, but I didn't I didn't know it was that serious per se. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just like, yeah, all these niggas is my friends. So I mean, down south, up top, like we're cool. We're cool. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

No, that's honestly, like I said, I I think now kind of asking you, seeing your reaction to it, having him ask me to ask you. I I think from my perspective, it sounds like you might have been like outside of the inner works of whatever animosity or whatever tension. I don't even have a it's competitive. At the end of the day, it's sportsmanship, so it could have been something like that, and you maybe diffuse it and eased it because at the end of the day, the relationship with those two. Well, yeah, with the two.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Yeah, because drunk Drew, we were there, drunk Drew, DJ Raw, um, and we had the whole, yes, we had the whole everybody from down south. The cats was in North Miami, we was all there and everything was cool, it was chill. So that could be the case that maybe it was some shit, but everybody's good now because guess what we is the bottom, the bottom, the bottom.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

Real.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Okay. Real, real, real okay, all of that.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Okay, and then so I want to tell the story to my audience. Um, if there is one, or but do you have like a specific like breakthrough moment that kind of or it could have be it could be a record, it could be out, or maybe it could be like a behind-the-scenes moment that really kind of opens doors for you musically in in the industry? Is there like a one significant moment? Like, what's the the pop-off moment? Like, if you look back and like, yeah, that that was the one where you started changing.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Definitely when for me, when I started seeing myself in a different light, when we uh when Wu came here and we were at Mahi Temple and we had that show, I was like, oh shit, it was me, DJ Coop DeVille. Shout out Coop, I love you, man. Um, we were together and uh it was that was my MJ moment, tongue out and everything. I don't like black snow. If it weren't for snow, DJ nasty, national hoods, we would, I don't even know if that shit would have happened. But that was the moment where I was just like, oh shit, bitch, you bad. With a good performance. I said, wait a goddamn minute. And then when I was Oh City said everybody that was there, that was that was uh that was the moment, and I got paid that night because I had been doing all kinds of shit, but that night I got they broke bread, and I'm like, oh, this is fucking great. And when Wu saw me coming off the stage, them niggas was like, Shorty, that was you up there. Say, Shorty, what you was by yourself, because these niggas got a billion niggas.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

She was like, Oh, Mother Superior, I remember her.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Yes, I'm like, they got a whole they got a whole crew, and it's just me and Coop. And they was like, that was you by yourself. I did that say, and was okay, yeah. So that was the pivotal moment for me when I felt like oh shit, bitch, you bad. I felt good about it.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

So that was like a self-moment for yourself, like when you had like that that uh, I guess clarification in your mind, or that you know, that I guess approval moment. Is there like a moment outside that kind of gets you there? Like, is there a moment like that kind of gets you into those rooms, into those doors? Like, what's the like the pop-off moment from there? Or kind of just basically how how does how does how do you get there?

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Well, it's a lot of shows. I mean, opening for nice and smooth down at the zoo. Shout out to Brim 127 and Dion in the building. Um, lost Lost City Records, let's go. Um, but I mean, you gotta think about it. We were opening for nice and smooth down at the zoo, and Brim had his record label, and he's like making this Mother Superior paraphernalia to freaking push out like Brim was a big part of before getting signed. Lost City Records, Taj's dad, Dion, like those guys, his cousin Jeff, those guys were like, yeah, like real live street promoters, and they was on it. And everybody who came to the zoo, pretty much I opened for them. Then at the cameo, Red Man, KRS1, leaders of new school, all of that, you know, hood stock. There's a whole bunch of stuff that happens before we get to uh, you know, those moments that you're talking about or that you asked about as far as the moment when I was like, oh shit, that felt really good. And I like this shit. You know what I'm saying? It was a bunch of shit before that.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Oh no, but by this time you have the record with Red Man, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:09

You uh the record and no, when I opened for Woo, we didn't, I didn't win no record deal then. Nothing, nothing. No, I'm telling you, there was a whole bunch. All right, I'm gonna tell y'all a story. So here's the story. I'm like, you know, I had got locked up, right? And uh, but I ain't gonna go that far back. I ain't gonna give the whole story, but what I wanted to tell was when we're asking about leading up to like getting the record deal and all of that, like I was supposed to open for ultra magnetic MCs, cool, cool key, yes, and uh my fucking ass went to jail. Like them motherfuckers came to my house, like, oh, we looking for the da da da. My homegirl was like, nah, she ain't here. She called me on the phone and said, Bitch, don't come back upstairs, you know. Cause I had walked to go get some fucking backwoods so we can smoke some weed, we know, all this shit. She's like, Bitch, don't come back up here, they're up here. So that was the thing, but then they came back and I was there, my friend was there, and I'm like, nah, she's not here. I'm babysitting the kid, but I didn't open the door. They're like telling me, like, they're like, no, we know it's you. If you don't open the door, you got your kid in there. You want your kid to be in a house that don't have a door on it? Because we finna keep this bitch in, and I'm like, oh fuck, I can't pretend to be the babysitter because I don't want the doors off the hinges. I went to jail. I'm driving past what's what's the shit on 62nd Street? Um, that we all used to perform at. It used to be a boxing gym.

unknown 29:43

Oh, Carver Center.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Carver Center. Supposed to open for ultra magnetic MCs, baby. Driving past that bitch, that marquee says Mother Superior, Ultra Magnetics. But a bitch is I'm seeing this on the way. Wow. Oh, I'm like, I don't know if I should tell that story. But that shit right there was before a record deal. Okay? You just mad shit. Were you in the car? I was in the back seat. You didn't say nothing. I ain't say shit because I was I was on the way to down the middle. They don't and they don't give a fuck. It wasn't like they was gonna let me go. Be like, I'm supposed to be here. They're like, oh bitch, you going, let's go. So I didn't say I was I was just sitting back there feeling like shit, yo. I was just like, Golly, but that's a real story.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

And I don't, I mean, so uh you you call back to when you said the spiritual thing, do you believe in God? Because I I look at moments like that, like yeah. Yeah, maybe you need to go through things like that. This and this could just be my messed up mind working in the messed up ways. But when I hear things like that for people, or I go through things like that myself, I realize I try to justify like maybe I needed that. So wake myself up and tighten up and try to have a worse life.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Absolutely, there's a lesson in any trial, you know, but you gotta be real conscious to know that there is a lesson in it because motherfuckers go through things over and over and over again, and shit just be uh because you're not even looking for the message in the in the valley, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 31:19

So, anyway, so no, let's take it from there though, if we can, because this is before the record deal or anything like that. Does KRS facilitate the record deal? Like, what what what does he plan? Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

I facilit I facilitated my record deal. Of course, me and Mongoo. So I do want to shout out Mongoo, Papi Chulo, La Playa, my boy. Yes, yes, yes. Because Mongoo is the one who brought Joe Galdo to the cameo. And I'm thinking, oh no, that was in the tribe show. Because the tribe was at it wasn't the cameo, that was a different place. I'm trying to think who the hell maybe I was opening for leaders of the new school that night at the cameo, and Mongoo brought Joe Galdo and was like, This girl is this the shit right here. And after that, I ended up getting um the deal. So that's what happened there.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

Okay, and then the deal then once the deal happens, that's oh wait, let me tell you another story.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Okay, so KRS, this is how I met KRS1 since you brought that up. So KRS1, speaking of the Carver Center, was supposed to perform at the Carver Center. Wow, they done fucking shut that shit down, they shut it down because of I don't know, shit just wasn't right, some shit was supposed to happen, blah blah blah. Shut it down. So now we're at funk box with Arturo, right? And I know if you if if you know you know, if you know you know, so now we at the funk box, and so they're like, Oh, where can we move the place to the da da da? And there was a spot that my buddy had that was in the fashion district, which now is like some other shape because Miami got a midtown, like we New York and shit. I'm like, what the fuck is a midtown? But anyway, that's sidebar. So um then we find a spot that maybe is a little bit bigger than this space. We done got uh a DJ, found some random DJ to come, put the speakers inside this little hole in the wall in the fashion district, midtown, um, or what have you. Now we are headed over there. Chris is performing. This nigga is sweating, this shit ain't got no real AC. It's like it's hot in there, right? And uh he's performing the shit is so dope. I'm so I'm in a trance. I'm like, because this is this is somebody that you know I've been watching and that you know I got a lot of respect for, and it's like, oh shit, a fangirl action, okay? Um and then I tell his wife, Simone, I'm like, hey, I'm getting ready to get this record deal. I really want to get a track from him, blah, blah, blah. And boom. Get that's the connection with K R S1. Shut down show on Carver Center, and uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

Just asking.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Just asking. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna get this deal and I'm gonna get a beat from him. She's like, Oh, here's my card. Let me know when you read it. I say, okay. And then I was ready. Wow. And there it is. That's incredible. Yeah, three tracks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

Sometimes people gotta hear it because sometimes it's it's easy to just, you know, ask. And yes, there might be the pretty privilege going on, but the whole point is ask. Because you know, beauty's in the eyes of the beholder, and even you know, yes, and she used a knockout.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Back then she was she's still bad at that.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Oh, thank you. They say she a bit.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

How were you then months? Like what, 22, 23?

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Um, yeah, up in there. 20, 21, 22, before I left to go to New York. Yeah. And finish the record.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

And this is either fourth and Broadway. I wanted to ask, so then in this time frame is the Red Man record dropping, no?

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Well, not yet. So I'm trying to think, how did I Okay, oh no, was that before or after? Um that was after, but of course, Red Man is another one, like Kara's one for me, where it's like, uh, so I was like, Yeah, I want to get a track from him. And he was just starting to make beats, so he was not, you know, all the way in, in, but he was in enough. I got most of all from him. Um, and that was uh interesting thing. We were at Reel to Real Records in Long Island. We have no food, yo. But guess what? We had a cheeseburger from McDonald's, and we were like, Oh, this is all we fucking got. We can't get no food, it's two o'clock in the morning, and we're working. We that was the best fucking cheeseburger. This nigga's like, this is a cheeseburger casserole. I'm like, and it is okay, use your imagination. But I don't know when did I get with I don't know how that happened, maybe through my management, but definitely Red Man is an MC that I liked a lot. The same thing with Chris.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

So and then I gotta ask too though, because then the video, you know, is directed by Jisoo.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

Yes, yes. So a crazy combination, like this, I can't even go without mentioning it. And I'm trying to figure out how the hell did that happen. I can't quite remember. I guess I was the it girl, yes.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

No, my direction. Well, that's way before that's what I was saying. I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

But no, no, it didn't happen there. I it didn't have to be a good one.

SPEAKER_03 36:45

But maybe Planet the Seeds was just Planet Deceit.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

That that's again, that's when things are firing on all cylinders. You know, you're just in the right place at the right time and working and prepared and ready for the opportunity, too.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

That that's the only way when those moments of life happen is when everything is you're you're not shorting yourself in any aspect of your life, you're really going hard and full in and truly believing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Like that's that's and I would agree with that because when I was doing all of that, I wasn't doing it thinking, oh, I'm gonna get a record deal. Flow state. I was going with that shit, and I was just yeah, and then it led to something beautiful. So that would be something I would want to share with people. It's like you don't necessarily have to have a plan, but you gotta be present, and then uh things fall into place, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

And plans change, and eventually, you know, like even if you don't have the plan, you'll start formalizing the plan. And it's it's about action. You can't be dormant, you gotta try out different things, you gotta try different sports to figure out which ones you suck at and which ones, you know, your sport. You've got to that part. Um, and then so then a little bit after that, then uh we're crucial.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

That's under Little Sister Records, so well, so when I was in New York after all of the turmoil with the record label and all of that, and the um project being shelved and da-da-da-da-da. I uh the the project being shelved.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

I was gonna get down to that eventually, but we're just kind of jumping over. Yeah, because that was after. Um crucial.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

And the project that got uh Levitation? Yes. So it came out because people did Well, most of all came out, like you said, Jiza did the video, it was on BET, it was everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

There's a single physical work of it though, like online, like there's playlists of the of the album on the records and downloaded on music. Oh, okay, yeah. And then so like and then a lot of like uh a lot of like uh but like there's even physical, like like I've seen like the the the the track list and the the physical thing. So so it came out and then got shelved after.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

What what's what's well I did I did a tour with Karas once, so we did the entire United States, and then I went overseas with Warren G and the Five Footers. Um shout out to the Five Footers that part. Um so we did all of that, um and the records still got shelved, you know? So yeah. Well, I think that they weren't Hiram Hicks, um, who signed like Drew Hill, Mona Lisa, all those folks was not the person who signed me. Joe Galdo, shout out Papa Joe, um, is the person who signed me. And them two was like oil and water. So I was already fighting a losing battle because he didn't really fuck he didn't he didn't really fuck with Joe like that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Ah, got it. Okay, yes, and then so then with that record, was was was the B side of that record who got the money?

SPEAKER_01 40:02

No. So while I was in New York, I hooked up with another independent label, and we did that song, The Who Got the Money.

SPEAKER_03 40:11

And then there's a kid on that song.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

That's my son. That's your son for that's ties.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

Wow, I wanted to ask you. Who got the money?

SPEAKER_01 40:17

Yeah, that's my baby. And he appears in other records too. Yeah, he's actually on the infiltration song from um Levitation, yes, which is one of my favorite songs, not just because he's on it, because I feel like the lyrics were so appropriate when talking about the way people see Miami, coming to Miami, and you know, just move a little different when really we already been had our shit. So you can't come in here and give us nothing. So that infiltration song is one of my favorites, and Taj is on it.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

That's dope. Incorporating uh your your son into it, too. It's it's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Well, you're the heir.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Yeah, my dad gave me my rap name, you know. And hopefully by the end of this year, we'll have the father-son project.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Oh manifesting it.

SPEAKER_03 41:03

He keeps it. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

Listen, I listen, I can get Taj to spit something too.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

Oh my god, if we could do that, oh my god, that'll be incredible.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Father son, mother son.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Okay, that's incredible. Does he do anything musically besides feature on the records?

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Call my boy's son because he shine like one.

SPEAKER_04 41:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

No, he doesn't do anything musically, but like his mom, he's lyrically inclined. Got it, so he's got it. He can go and dig in the bag and pull out something.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

He's got it. I love that. Okay. Yeah. Okay, and then so you so if if we could talk about this, you you step away from music. What's the situation with that? Uh do you just take time off? Like from dropping? Are you still making music in that time? Like what what exactly goes on there?

SPEAKER_01 41:51

So from Levitation, of course, I'm still doing shit. I moved to Atlanta. And and shout out to Drez DeBeatnik. We just lost him. He's from Atlanta, and he's one of the first people that I connected with. I mean, not fully, but I moved to Atlanta and I didn't think that I still had my chops. You know what I'm saying? So they had this spot called Apache Cafe in Atlanta. And Drez, again, R-I-P-S-I-P, um, was the one who was hosting that party. And he first the clutch, first the bus, first the clutch, first the bus. And he's standing there with a microphone, right? And it's two MCs on the left and the right of this dude, right? And so whoever grabbed the mic first is the person who goes first in the battle. Oh my god, Drez, we miss you, bro. Yeah, RP for real dope. Yes, he did, he's dope. Um, so uh when I got to Atlanta again, I had a kid, I had just had a baby, and I was like, uh, bitch probably don't got it no more. You know, you're feeling this thing. So my husband's like, ah, they don't have this open mic, da-da-da. And I'm like, Yeah, I think I should go. And it was maybe about it was at least 20 people. And out of all of them, there were maybe three females, and I was one of them. You know what I'm saying? So da da da, we're going back and forth, da-da-da. Make it to the last four people. So these two people got a battle, these two people got a battle, and whoever's left gonna battle each other. Guess who was in the final four? Your girl, your girl, right? And my husband's like, oh, you go up there and you brrr, and then you go sit in the corner and be like really quiet. And I'm like, listen, I'm just trying to, because I want to know, you know, is my freestyle skill still up to par? I love freestyling. So uh yeah, made it to the final four. I feel like I was cheating. On one of the ones, he and his friends was there. I was fresh out of 305, so I ain't had no friends, but your girl was representing. So yeah. So since then, that was that whole thing. I met Charlie MC, shout out to Break Room Music, Child MC. We did some music together, and then you asked me earlier about the Savannah Jones. And Savannah Jones was a part of Break Room. Um we recorded some stuff, hosted a lot of parties over there in Atlanta with Divinity. Shout out to Divinity, bass guitarist. She was on a roll with Beyonce at one point when she had the all-girl band. But me and Divinity did a little work together when we were um when I first got to Atlanta. So there's been some stuff in between. I've had a little bit of a hiatus, but I have a project that I'm working on. Um, I lost my mom four years ago, and I've been trying to figure out exactly how to uh approach that with something creative, right? Like an outlet. So I got a couple of beats from some cats here in Miami. I had an idea, da-da-da-da, but I never wrote to it. And mind you, this is four years ago, but I have another project that you know I have started writing to, and it's in play, and I'm hoping I have it together by October. Nice, and I would love to come back and talk to you some more once I have that together.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

A hundred percent. You send it this way, you bring it, we do a listening session, do an episode after so we can talk about it. 100%. That would be incredible. I'll be an honest. Yes, okay. I love that. Please, yes, yes. Okay. So um then, you know, the thing about music is like we're humans, you know, we're not just one sole thing that does music. We we let have our whole lives, you know. We have children, we have families, we have relationships. So it's like even when you leave music, you don't necessarily leave music, you're always connected to it in some way. You're always, even if it's not writing, you're always listening to it, formulating ideas, thinking of writing.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Yeah, I mean, the thing is that I have kids that span generations of the children that I've given birth to because I started young with Taj, and I have a young kid now. So all of the music, and I've challenged them frequently about what they think is dope, this, that, and the third. My son plays the trumpet, he's also a dope MC video editor, so they kind of keep me going with what exactly they think is fresh. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 46:27

So, yeah. That's powerful. Okay, so then all right, I that's a perfect transition to this because you said it bar for bar. I want to get this right here. Let's get this right here. Oh shit. So, you a real MC, you're supposed to put history in motion, show your devotion, and fill every jam with your funky emotions. Thank you for doing that. A true lady. So, what do you think a real MC is today? Oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Okay. Um exactly that you just read. I mean, it's like write what you feel, feel what you write. Facts. And I don't care if it's ratchet, if it's a representation of your life and where you are, and you're able to shine a light on it, put a mirror on it, and share it with folks so folks can know what's going on in your world, I think you are doing your service.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

That's awesome. I I I I want to get into that because I I really want to get your perspective on this because you came in at a time where, you know, women specifically had to fight to, you know, to even have an ear to listen to, to, you know, really prove authenticity and and you know, really speak your shit. Like you couldn't, you know, just go off on it. But nowadays, I you know, it's there's there's I guess for lack of a better word, start rap or whatever it is. And I ain't gonna lie, like I like good music's good music. Like it's not like I'm not the biggest lyrical schmirk, like I like music, not not everything has to be, you know, it it's not to me, it's not all about that. To me, I think it's a balance. And like there's you know, you need the little you dumbed down records, you need the little little pump records, you need the fun little records, and then you need the thoughty records, you need all that. It's it's it's it's a whole entire thing, and there's people for everything. So I wanted to get your opinion on that with what the female MC is nowadays, because it's the you could argue it's the most successful it's ever been, but then like every people, you know, there's this whole stigma with uh thought rap and the whole like you know they're shaking ass and like they're selling their morals and this and that.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Well, I mean the thing is is that you know, there's there's a Millie Jackson, you know, a female entertainment, you know, and that's going way back. There's uh little Kim. I mean, there are artists that do that type of music, but for every one of those sorts of artists, there's a whole bunch of other that you can tap into. So I think it's really dope that females like I like Meg the Stallion, you know what I'm saying? Like incredible, I like it, I like Glorilla because I feel like they are authentic. So there's only gonna be one Meg the Salin Stallion, there's only gonna be one Mother Superior, there's only gonna be one Glorilla. It's when it gets oversaturated, like that is a thing to do. Then that is if you're creating music from that angle, then you are a gimmick. You know what I mean? Let the original be the original, and then you be the original, whatever it is that you uh are doing with your music, and that's not just a female thing that goes for niggas too, that go for men as well. Everything you know for everyone, authenticity always wins, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Great, great, great, great answer and great way to put it. I I I use I I try to say that all the time, and the example I give people is Nikki and Cardi. And like people, like you know, whatever people give Nikki all her flowers and she's lyrically dope, but I always tell people, why do you think Cardi got a number one way before Nikki? Like, why why do you think it is? And everybody's like, Really? That's true. They check the stats and like damn, it is true. And I tell them, it's to me, I think it's because Cardi to more most more people feels more relatable. It's not the most lyrical, crazy thing, but it's really her. It's really that little little cheek out chick from from from the Bronx or wherever from New York with that accent, and she's really talking about being in the street because we used to do that. She's really on that. She's really that. Like, do not doubt that.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

And I think, and I think there's room for all of that. I mean, there's room for Nicki Minaj, there's room for Cardi B. Because Nicki Minaj and they both have something that they contribute. And uh beyond that, like, I really like Tierra Whack a lot. I really, I really like um What do you feel about Dolce? Little Sims. Oh shit, she's from Florida. So you are already. Jacksonville, Jacksonville right now.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

Oh, Tampa, shout out my bush guardian, shout out my girl, Dolce. Listen, Docie.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Yeah, she from Florida too. Period. End of story, no more discussion. Yeah, I'm fucking with her too. You know, Little Sims is another MC that I really, really like. Um, so there's space for everybody, and you can carve your niche. And again, you don't have to be Nikki, you have to be Cardi, this in your face, mainstream, the shit that the industry pushes. If you have your passion and some shit that you can pursue, like Doche was in Doche until a little while ago for everybody else, but she been that, she been that bitch, and you can be all of that before somebody even knows your name on a scale that people consider the you know, I've arrived stage, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

Mainstream or whatever people consider that, but the it starts with you, it starts with you believing in yourself. That's that's the number one person because if you don't rock with you, how's anybody else gonna rock with you? That part, and uh shout out Aunt Lily, then, since we've talked about everybody family.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Oh my gosh! Shout out to my Aunt Lily. Yes, that's my aunt. She's and I know somebody bought some shit, but she's in Georgia now, she's not Miami anymore. Um, but I love that because we can see each other.

SPEAKER_04 52:22

I'll say neither are you she's closer to me.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

We go out, we have drinks. Aunt Lily, I love you, Deborah's sister. Okay, and the uh is Aunt Lily any connection to Mike Smith in that relationship? No, Mike Smith and I are cousins, but it's on my dad's side. Oh, okay. His his mom and me are first cousins, and yeah. His grandma's amazing. Mike Smith, his grandma and my auntie. So that's my and again when we start talking about lyricism in Miami, like this dude is the point of reference, you know, because he's dope, he can spit, but again, when people want to uh pigeonhole and make Miami be a thing, it doesn't allow for a Mike Smith to shine the way that he should, or even let a Mother Superior shine the way she should have, you know, but there's lyricism here, yeah. O'Ryan.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

Shout out O. And speaking of O B U B. I love how God works sometimes. All the time, actually. So, shout out to O with the Aliup with this one. Let's throw it back real quick. Say it's 1997 and you're signed to Loud Records with a three-feature budget. Who are you calling up that you could pick from either their insane roster or are I'll even open up to anybody in the game? Because at the time they was rocking when they had Raekwon, Mop Deep, Dead Press, Exhibit, Pun, Pete Rock, Expect the Deck, the Alcoholics. God, that was that was wait, wait, wait, wait. Back it up. Give it to me with one more deal. We got a three-feature budget. We're backing it up to 97 back then. We got a three-feature budget. The label says, yo, whatever back, don't worry about it. Blank check status. Pick somebody from the roster from the lineup, or you want to.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

Oh, tell me again who's on the oh definitely dead pres.

SPEAKER_03 54:13

Okay, but we got raquan, mob deep, dead preshibit, pun, pe-rock, expected deck, that's rough.

SPEAKER_01 54:23

Okay, so dead pres. Um, oh my god. Okay, go back. Tell me again, tell me again.

SPEAKER_03 54:30

We got raquan.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Oh, rayquine, rayquine, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:33

Mob deep, uh, dead prez exhibit.

SPEAKER_01 54:36

Oh god damn. And we're gonna bring pun back from no mob deep, okay. Dead prez.

SPEAKER_03 54:42

This is back then too.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

This is before Dead Prez. I mean before all that. Dead Prez and R P. Um, Dead Prez and Raekwon. That's who I'm picking.

unknown 54:53

Mob Deep?

SPEAKER_01 54:54

Mob Deep, Dead Prez and Raekwon. Yeah. Yes, that's who I'm picking. I'm picking them.

SPEAKER_03 55:06

That shit would be so good. That was good. Okay, that's that's good lineup, good lineup. Ah, yeah. Okay, and then so who's and then let's fast forward enough to today. Who's one dope female artist and even a male artist too that you like to work with? That you haven't had a chance to maybe connect with yet or or link up with. Yeah, it's the free shots. Like, no, do it.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

Okay, so for female MCs, I would say Little Sims. Um I don't know. There was I can't um recall the actual album that first put me on to her. But yo, I'm listening to this chick and I'm like, I can almost hear myself. And I'm just like, God damn, she raw. You know what I'm saying? So Little Sims, I would anti-Rawac too, because she's so musical with what she does. Um and the concepts of her music are really, really, really dope. Um so those would be my two female MCs. Um, so for male MCs right now, I can't even lie, I've always liked Kendra Lamar. So I would love to be on a K Dot. I would like to be on a record. That would be good to do that. And then number two. I mean, I wanna say oh, it's fucking hard. I don't know. Well, you don't gotta do that.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

I just asked you for one.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Okay, let me give let me give K Dot. Let me give K Dot. You're good, you're good.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

Okay, okay, and then so it was the last official release, the break room, the 2020?

SPEAKER_01 56:46

Yes. So we did that right before COVID. And then we did not get to go get out on the road because with the previous record, like we went out to California, we went to North Carolina again. Shout out to Child MC. Um, but with this record, we didn't get to do that because COVID came. And I've been pushing him, even he's still been recording music. Um, but I've been pushing him to let's do something with this break room shit or do some new shit. Um, so yeah, that was the last though.

SPEAKER_03 57:17

Is there any chance maybe we get a 25-minute break before 2025?

SPEAKER_01 57:20

Yes, before all the child MC, 25-minute break. Let's go. I'm with it. I'm with it.

SPEAKER_03 57:27

We know you are with pressure. That's how we do it. Okay. And then I'll also shout out a crazy hood and EFN. What's that whole relationship been like remant to you?

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Oh man, I mean Crazy Hood. That's what I'm saying. You are I got my plaque, it's in my office at my home. So that part, but yeah, me and this nigga go way back like faux flat tires, you know what I'm saying? Got seats in a Cadillac, like this, my nigga. And we've been around here doing what we do in Miami, and that's why he has the platform that he has and is able to bring in the folks that he brings in for drink champs. I mean, this guy is we are we are one, we are one in the same. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:11

That part.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

And then um from a beat standpoint too, what what kind of beats and like in production are are you like tuned into nowadays? What are what is you looking for?

SPEAKER_01 58:21

I'm I mean, at this point, I'm looking for something that's real melodic because my flow I feel is a lot different and less intense as it was as far as on a competitive kind of spirit, because you know, it is what it is. I know what you know who I am. Yeah, and it's like I want to speak the truth to the young black youth, you know what I'm saying? Pretty much, I just want to have some shit that has a lot more depth to it, and not something that is you know, I just the project that I'm working on will be that.

SPEAKER_03 59:03

Dope.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

Yes, so October, we're gonna come back and do this.

SPEAKER_03 59:07

Pressure now, now it's full circle.

SPEAKER_01 59:09

For me, a pressure for me, yes. I need it game of the mirror. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_03 59:14

And every episode we end with uh a game called the Big Three Draft. So this is basically uh a draft where we stick on a subject and we pick either the best or worst or something. Okay. Um it's hard to not do this topic. I feel like we have to do it. Okay. We're gonna pick female artists from Florida of all time.

SPEAKER_01 59:32

Myself.

SPEAKER_03 59:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:34

What the fuck you mean? You can't pick yourself.

SPEAKER_03 59:37

Alright, fine, you can pick yourself.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

Well, that's who I'm going with. Because Well, that's one. So it's the big three, so we gotta pick three. I mean, I picked JT. I fuck with JT from the City Girl. Damn, that was a great pick. That was just a big one.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Well, yeah, you get it. Actually, you can pick JT because that's my first pick. So we go one by one. It's a draft style.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

That's why that's why it's nobody tells you to go crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

I just you got one pick and you said it yourself. I pick me.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

You're okay. I pick me.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:12

Okay. So I got JT.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

I love JT though, but you're a little Uzi book. But you did pick it up.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:17

You could be the UB if shit don't work out. If you want to fuck with the chicken.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

Um talk about that's oh that's what I got. We good. We good. What you wanna do? Now what? You gotta pick a two and a three.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:29

Well, you gotta pick two, and then I pick a two, and then you pick a three, and I pick a two. But who else is there? A dochi? Well, we we could do all time. Oh, you said we could do you say yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:38

Oh, do you do?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Yeah, we could do contemporaries, we could do new people now. It doesn't have to be new, you know back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

Mom Z, so Dochi's your second one.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:46

It has to be an MC, a female MC. We could open up the female voice. Oh shit, Betty Wright.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:53

So Betty Wright's your number too quick. All right, then I'm gonna take Dolce off the board. Oh no, actually, no, I'm gonna leave Dolce on the board. I'm gonna take Trina off the board. Trina's gonna be my second pick.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:02

Trina's the second pick.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

That is Trina.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

Diamond Princess.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

So you got a third pick. So this is the last picker.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

So I got Betty, I got Dolce, I got my phone.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:12

No, I got no Dolce's still alive. Oh, you can pick Dolce. I'll pick Dolce. Pick a pick. Good pick. This is where when I get stuck like this on the third pick, I usually pick the guests, but but the guest picked herself.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:28

Yeah, yeah, off the rip.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:29

You're the legend. Nobody ever does that off the first pick. Yeah, but then for that would have done the city girls and. Jackie O.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:37

Jackie O'Leary.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:38

Damn, but Jackie O is from Miami? Well, it's Florida. We opened it up to Florida.

unknown 1:01:44

She's Christian now.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:45

Jackie O. Oh, shout out Jackie O, shout out God.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:48

She's from Florida? Yeah, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:49

Shout out Jackie O, shout out to God.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

She don't want to have nothing to do with none of that. She's from Florida? She's from Miami.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:55

She's from uh Liberty City. How the fuck I ain't know that?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

Man, my mom knows Jackie O. Shout out, well, like her music. Yeah, Jackie O's my third pick. Yeah, that's that's legendary. Yeah, that's that's crazy. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

Holy shit, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:11

My queen, uh, we end every episode with uh giving the guests an opportunity to give a message to the audience before we sign off. Anything else you'd like to tell the people listening at home?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:20

Yeah, I'll I want to tell folks when you're in a tight spot, talk to your ancestors. That's what I tell folks. You know, it's like it's so many people that have been here before you and your lineage, and they're here in the in the in the present moment to guide you, to protect you, to give you, you know, everything it is that you need to go from point A to point B. So tap into that. Um tell people pursue your passion with a lot of fire, right? Not don't be uh don't second guess yourself, you know. If you feel it and spirit is telling you that's the way to go, go. And balls to the wall, go. You know what I'm saying? Um, yeah, and move move in move in good spirits. I mean, that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

So the window to the wall. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

Balls.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:25

All these females. We'll see y'all next week. Peace. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:31

Yeah.