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Mr. Saving Lives on THC - #85

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Episode 85 of The Heir Cast welcomes one of Hialeah's own, the community leader formerly known as Suicide—now ironically known as Mr. Saving Lives.

In this episode, we unpack the story, poetry, and deeper meaning behind both names, and why they represent two completely different chapters of his life. Sui (short for Suicide... watch the episode and you'll understand) shares how he got his start cutting hair, built relationships with industry figures like the YNB crew, and earned the trust of countless professional athletes.
We also dive into the realities of being a barber—the pressure, the grind, and the responsibility that comes with the chair—as well as the rewarding side of watching generations of families grow up right in front of you.

As a fellow Hialeah Chico, it was an honor to finally sit down with Sui for an honest conversation full of laughs, life lessons, and hometown pride.

🎙️ Welcome to Episode 85 of The Heir Cast.

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SPEAKER_01

The roughest part about being a barber, you know what it is? Losing niggas.

SPEAKER_00

Damn.

SPEAKER_01

I got so much motion, bro. So much motion. But niggas don't ask me, yeah, what happened to that? When niggas ask, yo, what happened to that nigga? Nigga died, bro. 2011, I was a full-blown menace. Like, we was out of there. I can't even describe into words how my life was at the time. Like it was I was just out of there. I wasn't, nigga, I didn't want to be a barber fool. Like, that's not what I was, I was, I was, I was in the streets. My nigga, like my mom, that was my old girl, and my old girl saved my life. So be in whatever line of work you in, but loyalty, bro. Niggas don't forget about that shit, bro. Cause when you loyal, bro, if you down, son, I got you, bro. If you hungry, I got you. If you thirsty, I got you, fam. Because you stuck with me from the bottom. Slide niggas too. These brakes and these keys and these tips is what we'll do.

SPEAKER_03

Cheers, my doggy.

SPEAKER_01

Cheers, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03

I'll hear, bro. I'll here, out here. Just to give context. I told him before, I'm gonna say it now on that recording. I thought my dog, because we've been talking about the pod for a good little minute. My dog's been showing me love since episode six with J Stars. And uh he said, Well, when I come on, we're gonna make it a movie. And J Stars told me, too, it's gonna be crazy. Gotta get him on. He was one of the people that recommended. I think he said it on the episode for you to get on. And I thought you were gonna come with the gang squad. You know, I thought he was gonna be on some shit. And sure enough, he did come with the gang, but he came with his pops. Okay, he pulled up with the old boy, and I just I salute that a lot. You know, if some of you watch me or may not know, I do this show with my pops, so I think it's cool when you can keep it in the family. Don't get me wrong, working with family is sometimes tough, but stay with family, dog, because that's all we got. You know, at the end of the day, that's all we got. Friends come and go, but in life, family dog.

SPEAKER_01

That's 100% facts, man.

SPEAKER_03

And you're already watching the show, so I consider you part of the family. Welcome back, folks. Another day, another podcast. You already hear the voice, you already saw the the face. Um, might know the name, might know some of the names, but today we got Mr. Saving Lives on here, dog.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Previously, the artist formerly known as Suicide.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? Suicide. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_03

How old are you, dog?

SPEAKER_01

If you don't mind me asking you, um 32, turning 33 this year.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I was 31 when I'm I was 31. I'm 31 now, but I'm like right before you. So I just transferred to Golem like sophomore year, and music was big. You know, music was turning up. My dad was doing A Bay Latino at the time. I was hearing J stars, all these names, uh J. Quells, all these people that were making music. You were a name that would constantly come up, dog. One of the OGs in doing this thing, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Community work, and now fast forward all this time later, you're still doing community work out here, helping, saving lives for real.

SPEAKER_01

That's a fact, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Are you keeping count of how many lives you save?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, man, it's too many. It's too many, too many, too many. But every every life, every life um is important. You feel me? Every person is a different story.

SPEAKER_03

All lives matter.

SPEAKER_01

Our lives matter, man.

SPEAKER_03

Black lives matter too, but whatever. We're not getting political. I was on a cop thing. But um, so talk about that. Saving lives, that's that's a haircut thing. That's like, yo, let me save your life for a quick.

SPEAKER_01

It's a way of life, my brother. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, it's a way of life. I mean, it started off that way, you know what I'm saying? But um, once I got deeper into it, it's it's way more than just a haircut, bro. Everybody, like I told you, everybody got a story. So once you, you feel me, you cutting somebody up and everybody gets down into business, like talking about their life. You feel me? You're more like a counselor when it comes to this shit. Therapy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

A lot of people say you're barbership therapist almost.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so um, yeah, this year I had a client one time during the pandemic. That's when shit really hit. Because we really saving lives. Like, niggas is really losing their lives, you feel me? And um, niggas is looking rough. Like, it's talking about two, three months looking crazy. And I cut a nigga up and he's like, yo, bro, you you really like Mr. Saving Lives with this shit. And I look at this nigga, I'm like, I bet. And then you know what I'm saying, like somebody else was like, damn, like, you know, like he didn't literally call me Mr. Saving Lives, but he like, yo, you saved my life. So then that shit started ringing. Connecting, yeah. And I'm like, yo, man, what's up? This shit, we about to run with this shit, you feel me? So then I went ahead and ran with that shit, Mr. Saving Lives, and I took that shit serious. So, you know, I always been a people person myself, like, like you said, community person. So even when I was in the in the streets with the homies, like it's it was always love. Like, I was always, I I never considered myself a follower, always a leader. So in my block, whoever hit the block, like I took them under the wing, and it was always love. Like, you feel me? Even with the rap and shit, like, everything, like whoever came and hang with us, he was Gucci. You feel me? Because that's just the way you gotta carry yourself. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

So I want to talk about that. I want I want to tell the story a little bit because outside looking in, I don't know the story too well, but the names are cool, and like I'm big on writing and shit like that. And I think there's there's poetry and like the the former name and the new name now. But I let's start first. Who gives you the suicide name? Or how does that come out?

SPEAKER_01

Oof.

SPEAKER_03

Did you have rap names before that?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, nah. My name was Suicide. Like rapping, like when I took that for real, that was the name, but that comes before the av. Like, um, shit, that story's a little crucial, gang.

SPEAKER_03

That's what we do here on the aircraft, dog.

SPEAKER_01

Crucial stories, dog. Man, shit. Um, when I was uh when I was young or whatever, um eh shit. Fuck it, we're gonna throw that shit in. When I was young, my old boy, they my old boy went to the feds, right? So um that shit was crazy for me. That shit took a toll on me, right? Um, me and my old girl kind of got into it one day, and there was some lady living in my crib, and she had a room rented out. And um, boom, they had the uh the room rented out, whatever. We kind of got into it, you know, it was some rough moments in life and shit. So um, long story short, she called the police on me and she said that I was, you know, I was crazy, that I was trying to kill myself. So instead of them niggas. Instead of them niggas locking me up.

SPEAKER_03

You weren't really suicidal, right?

SPEAKER_01

Of course, you feel me? So instead of them niggas locking me up, them niggas trying to take me to Citrus. You feel me? Oh, what a right. So, boom, when they took me there, y'all, long story short, nigga, I was out the next day because them niggas knew I wasn't, you feel me, I wasn't fried. But you're suicidal. A nigga jumped out, or my cousin started roasting the nigga, like, oh, so it shit started off as a joke. And then I'm like, hey nigga, whatever, fool. I was young, nigga. I was like 14 years old, type shit, you feel me? So then I like a little bit after that nigga started going with the rap and shit, and I started taking that shit seriously. I'm like, damn, nigga, this shit's part of my life. Like, what's really good, nigga? Like, you know, I'm about to kill this mic type shit. Feel me? So then I was I ran with the shit, and that's what it was, nigga. I was suicide, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

That's awesome. That's the best thing you could do in life, dog. Life gives you lemons and fucking get a corona.

SPEAKER_01

So I ran with that shit, my nigga, and that's just what it was. And then, you know, niggas in um I remember uh I went to the gardens for a little bit. I went to like four different high schools, but at that time, that was my last high school. Like there was no other choices. That's it.

SPEAKER_03

So before Gardens Goleman?

SPEAKER_01

No, I went to Golman. First it was American for like a week. Then the addresses changed, yeah. The addresses changed, and then boop, because I was living like towards the lakes type shit, like with my old girl. So then boop, the addresses changed and sent me to Golman. That you know, we made it to the block. We was in Gorman chilling. Then um, my people bought a crib at Miramar. You feel me? So, where'd you go to Miramar? I went to Everglades. Everglades, Ransom, Everglades. Yeah, I went to Everglades, you feel me? I went there for like two months, two, nigga. Not long, nigga. This is all freshman year, cuz.

SPEAKER_03

It's a lot of moving around, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I went to Everglades, that shit was cool. You feel me? I'm not gonna lie, it's a different scenery for me. Nigga, no uniform, nigga. These niggas got foreign and I used to think it was a fake school.

SPEAKER_03

I remember the first time I heard it. Oh, I go to ransom. I was like, that's not a real place, dude.

SPEAKER_01

But believe it or not, nigga. I mean you two, yeah. I went to almost all the high schools.

SPEAKER_03

Almost, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I went to Everglades and shit. That shit was calm and shit, you know. That shit, I can't complain. It was a good vibe, you know, all the goodies, everything was dope. And then after that, um, what was it? I went.

SPEAKER_03

I went to Go Gardens. Ended in Gardens.

SPEAKER_01

No, after that, nigga, I got them niggas, I got into some real pressure over there because I'm from Dade. So I got into some real beef. I got jumped over there. Really? Yeah, no, niggas fucked me up. I ain't gonna lie. It was like 14 Chados. Um, whatever. Some hood shit on some Dade shit.

SPEAKER_04

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

So whatever, them niggas jumped me because and it was straight, you know. Then the next day I was going on some retaliation shit, and my old girl like intervened and shit, sent me to New York. Boom. So when she sent me to New York, boom, I go over there and um try to put me in school. Um, G Dubs is my hood over there in the heights, and them niggas is like, yo, we can't take you. Because it was already the middle of the year, and over here it's 24 credits, over there's 48 credits. So when I go, nigga, with like one credit, them niggas looking at me crazy, like, nigga, we got too much shit to deal with over here. You know what I'm saying? So boom, that shit didn't work out. Came back home, my old girl already had me. She moved to Hyalea. Boom. So she like, yo, boom, signed me up in Hylia Gardens, and there I was. You feel me? So we was in the gardens with it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

That's what you did. A lot of suicide, the rapper did.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's where everything, a lot of that shit went down crazy. So Hylia Gardens, boom, boom, the cyphers in the middle of the school, shutting that shit the fuck down. Everything was lit. My nigga Big Chi, everybody, them niggas, um, Jader and Jesse.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to Jedi Jader bunch of OG Divine Don Julio. Are you familiar with him too? Who knows? Divine, of course. That was nice school.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna get there. That's where that was the different scenery. So then boom, we was in um, we was in um gardens, and I was there with Jader, Big Chi, you know, a couple niggas, but those Big Chi, my doll. They were the ones doing shit, shout out Rest in Peace Brick, you feel me, was in my table. Yeah, wow, he's big. Um, so nigga, we was there, boom, everything was lit. And I used to roast on on Jader. I used to call him Jade Nerd. You feel me? Like home team shit. Yes, yes, yes. And then that nigga started calling me Suey. So then that was some home team shit. So that's where the little Suey shit came. That's where Suey really took. Yeah, yeah. So then, you know, but it was Suey like the homies and shit. And then um, you know, nigga, if you wasn't valid and you call me Sue, you're gonna have to bump. So, you know, I was straight suicide for the hood. And then I got kicked out of gardens, too. So that's it, it's done for high school. Now I'm in night school Golman. Shit is real, it's just not even school no more.

SPEAKER_02

Goman night school.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that shit was on a different, like, you know what I'm saying? So me and Jay stars, like, that's when me and Jay starts really lock in on some different shit. Like, you know, old D boys, we was the hood, you feel me? We were going to night school too? Yeah, Jay Stars was in night school, like, yo, the whole West side. Anybody that was on some hood shit.

SPEAKER_03

He's probably in night school already. He's a little bit older than us. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, nah, me and Jay, he's probably like a couple, like a couple months a year older than me. Oh, okay. Yeah, long story short, though, me and Jay, we just locked in then. There was Cyphers. Divine was there. Um, me and Jay, I don't know, it was somebody else. It was a couple niggas, but those other niggas, now that you said that I forgot about him, but he was the homie. Are you both from the same heights? I know he had. Nah, nah. JJ is from he's from the Bronx. Okay. Um, East, um, Chester. I don't know. He's from some project. Yeah, yeah, no. Me and me, I'm from um Washington Heights, 104 in San Nick and Wasworth. You feel me? That's Manhattan. He's from the Bronx.

SPEAKER_03

You still got family in New York?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, family, home team, the whole shit. We got the whole, I got the whole team out there.

SPEAKER_03

So you go out a lot, huh?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's my second home. You feel me? Nice, okay. It's just a crib out there. My out there they don't call me Suicide or 305. My shit is they call me 305. Because that's the crib, but I'm from here, you feel me? So it's you know what I'm saying? That's that's what it is. But yeah, though. So then that's how that shit went.

SPEAKER_03

So now we established the first name. What when did you start cutting hair?

SPEAKER_01

I started cutting hair. I would have to say, oof. Craziest year was 2011. Shit was real hectic everywhere. That's when I came back from New York. Now I wasn't in school, bro. I came out of school way. I came out of school like early 2010. 2011, I was a full-blown menace. Like, we was out of there. It was strange. Yeah, yeah, we was out of there. It was it was crazy, bro. Yeah, I can't even describe into words how my life was at the time. Like it was I was just out of there. I dropped out of 10th grade. So I had to be junior year, I guess. You feel me? For me, if I was in school.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so I bounced to New York um around that time, 2011. Early 2011. So I was there like the whole year, you feel me? Um, boom, when I came back, uh, what was it? 2011 came back. Ooh, I got jammed. After getting jammed? No, no, I I went to New York, boo, came back, got jammed, came home, you know, some little petty shit. Nigga never done no time or no crazy shit like that, thank God. You feel me? Um then I went to that was like 2013, I have to say, when I started. Okay, right when we were supposed to be like graduating again. Yeah, yeah, 2013. Yeah, I just turned 18. Yeah, my mom was like, yo, crazy shit, though. That's a that's a whole crazy ass story, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03

Getting into cutting airs?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I wasn't nigga, I didn't want to be a barber fool. Like, that's not what I was, I was, I was I was in the streets, my nigga. Yeah, like my mom, that was my old girl, and my old girl saved my life, cuz. Yeah, nigga, I was supposed to go. We was in the middle of we was in the middle of some beef. Um at the time, you know, I'm cool with a lot of them niggas now, but back then there was some beef, like two, four, six, seven and shit. And it was real deep in the hood, you feel me? And um that day, I was, I don't know if you remember um Bears, Deja Vu. Yes. Or whatever. Drive by the day. No, no, that was way after. That was in our time. Right, right, right. Whatever, long story short, there was um, we were supposed to, like, you know, we always used to go. That was the stumping grounds, that was where the rumbles went down and everything, you feel me? But that day, my old girl, my old girl's real like, you know, spiritual when it comes to shit. So she's like, yo, I heard you calling my name, nigga. I don't want you coming out today. And I'm like, yo, what you talking about, bro? Like, whatever, you feel me? So I'm just chilling. Long story short, um, the homies is like, um, I don't know if you know Angel, um Lanky. Angel, you want to go on, man? You feel skinny nigga, skinny black. If you see him, you know who he is. Um, my dog was jammed, he came home that day, and niggas was like, yo, what's up? Let's go to deja vu. And I'm like, damn, nigga, I ain't going out there today. Cause I don't know, something hit me, and I was like, nigga, I ain't going out there. My old girl told me not to slide. I didn't slide. Long story short, the niggas left. And um, boom, shit went crazy. Them niggas um fought the whole club. J Suns got jammed, did like a six, seven month bit. Wow. Then that day, me and my old girl, I told my old girl a whole bunch of shit that, you know, like my life and shit. Opened up to her. Yeah, yeah. And she was like, yo, let me, you know, give me a year of your life. Let me make something out of you. You know, that shit didn't hit home at the moment, a type shit. But I was like, alright, whatever, cool. I didn't think nothing of it.

SPEAKER_03

But it was a moment for you.

SPEAKER_01

It was not it was a big moment between me and the old girl. You feel me? Like it was, I was being real, like genuine. You feel me? Like I wasn't hiding shit, because I didn't have to hide shit no more. I was a straight, I was out there, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

That's a big point in a in a man's life when you realize let me, it's easier to not hide this shit from my parents and let me just be real about that. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01

I wasn't sugarcoating. I said, yo, look, listen, this is what I do. Like I smoke, I do this, you feel me? And you know, she she respects me, you know, telling her what time it was. Even though she knows what time it was, nigga. I'm a parent now. So I know nigga, when my g get older, he's not gonna be able to hide no shit from me.

SPEAKER_03

But think about it as your parent. Like, I'm sure before your kid tells you all that, you're probably thinking, oh, my kid's probably doing even worse. You know, God knows what it is. Of course, of course. So when your kids like, yo, this is what I'm actually fucking doing. You might not believe him 100%, but you're like, oh, okay. At least she's not telling me I'm doing bumps, I'm doing whatever. Right, right. Like, that's different than him smoking weed, you feel me?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so whatever. She was like, yo, boom, whatever. Like a couple weeks later, she saw me give myself a tape. You know, niggas ain't really have it like that at the time. Niggas used to trap, get bread here and there, but it wasn't crazy. Niggas didn't have it.

SPEAKER_03

Give yourself a tape, save. I don't want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so she was like, yo, I got it. Boom. She like, nigga, let's put you in barber school. Like that word is something like it was crazy as fuck. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, that's it. Shout out the old girl, but that's crazy. No, shout out the old girl, man. The old girl, the old girl's the old girl, man.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to you for listening. A lot of fools will hear them up saying that.

SPEAKER_01

I never did, dog, but that shit, you know, I was uh a nigga like I turned 18, nigga, I didn't have nothing. I didn't have no no dollar time, I ain't have no fucking bank account. I ain't have shit, nigga. I was just a regular hoodlum. You feel me? And that's not really what I didn't that shit wasn't it for me, cuz you feel me? So I'm like, damn. She told me that I was like, yeah, what I disregarded it again. You feel me? I heard it, but I didn't listen. And then she really went through with the shit. Like, yo, what up, nigga? I'm gonna sign you up at school. So I'm like, yo, let me give this shit a chance. You know, I ain't never given no fucking high school diploma. Nigga been doing a whole bunch of bullshit. Long story short, nigga went to school. And nigga, that shit hit home. Nigga, I went to school, I stuck with the shit, a whole bunch of gangster niggas in there. That's kind of what made me. I'm like, damn, like, all these niggas remind me of me. And then there were so many niggas dropping jewels on me. Like, I'm talking about real OG niggas in there, bro. I'm talking almost like a class of like 50 heads, bro. And different ages, too. Yo, 40, 50. There was there's no age to the barber game. You feel me? If you wanna if you wanna better yourself, that's different. That's what it is. You feel me? So, yeah, let's take a drink, though. I feel like I've been talking for days.

SPEAKER_03

Bro, that's what we're here for, dog. Only 15 minutes in there. So a lot of good shit here, dog. This is fire. This is good, dog. I thank you again, dog, for coming through and doing it. Nah, nah, nah, for sure, man.

SPEAKER_01

Love is love, bro. We're gonna get this shit on another level, I promise you.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so you're getting game from OGs and the barbers.

SPEAKER_01

OGs, OGs and the barberscore. I'm talking about dudes coming out of prison from four or five-year pigs, old Bobby's coming from Cuba. Wow. Like niggas is dropping jewels on me. Not like literally sitting me down, like, oh, you gotta do this, but more like I'm learning. Like, damn, nigga, I'm trying to better myself at 18.

SPEAKER_03

And that's another thing, too. Like, it's one thing somebody lecturing you saying, hey, you have to do this to be better. It's another thing somebody saying, Yo, I just got out of a four-year bid, though. Life fucking sucks, dah. My life sucks. My BM doesn't like me, nobody likes me. You see that guy going through it, you probably learn, like, damn, I don't want to be like that. Versus the homie telling you, hey, don't do this, don't do that, be better than this. Like that shit, like you said, you might wipe your ass with that shit. But seeing somebody fuck up, like that's one of my quotes I stay saying, like a wise man learns from his mistakes. The wisest people learn from others. You feel me?

SPEAKER_01

A hundred percent. So, um, that being said, I I I took the I took it upon myself to take this shit serious. You feel me? Cool. So then boom, and you know, I'm I'm I'm a natural, like I told you, with people. You feel me? Like, this is a gift that one of the gifts that God gave me. It's being able to be with people and understand people.

SPEAKER_03

It's important you look at it like that, because I I don't cut hair, obviously, but I would think barbering is is almost like a skill. Like the the important thing is being good at your job. Not necessarily, it's being with the city.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, that's a percentage. You can get better at that. Everybody could cut hair. You feel me? So, what differentiates you from the rest? You understand? So that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? So, me having the gift that I have, which is a people gift, that shit came easy. I could persuade you to get in a cut, even though I suck. I'm already popping. So, long story short, once I'm in why once I'm in this process, remember I'm still in the hood. You feel me? I'm I'm trying, I'm not even in full transition. I'm just trying to do something. I'm still in the hood. But niggas, I'm starting to ring bells because everything I do ring bells. Nigga, that's just another gift that I got. My nigga, I'm just gifted like that. So niggas is like, yo, what up, nigga? Let me get a cut. You feel me? Um, and niggas started supporting, bro, and I'm like, yo, this shit's really going somewhere. Like, I'm cutting him in the laundries, you know. I'm from Terra Saled Sol, nigga. I'm from West 28th Ave. Like, that was my where my buildings was at. So nigga, I used to cut in the laundries and my balcony. Niggas is like, yo, I was trash, but niggas was showing love. And that's why this day, when I'm the GOAT, certain certain niggas shout out to my nigga Nelson, my nigga Jiggy. It's one of them dudes that he, you know, pause, like, let me cut his head, you feel me? Before anybody. Yeah, 100%. It was, you know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, like, what up? I got you.

SPEAKER_03

Very important.

SPEAKER_01

Very important. So when people like support you that way, you know, once you had a position to reciprocate that love back, you gotta do it. Like, yo, son, I don't got it. Oh, nigga, I got a job. And if you like, yo, it's love. You feel me? So loyalty goes a long way, which is what I tell my clients right now. If you support me and you rock with me, if you downhill, you don't even gotta say nothing. It's the same thing, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

Consistency, man. You build that report and that's not free, that's earned. And not by spending bread by time. I think that's the most crazy thing we could spend. Because anybody could make broad money. Anybody can do it. It's about your time and how many times you're going to that person. That's really how you build that rapport and relationship.

SPEAKER_01

That's so um, that's that's that's just what it is, and with the whole um, yeah, so everybody showing me love in the hood with the cutting hair shit.

SPEAKER_03

Did you ever get a lot of love like from music and shit like that? Like this is or is this a different kind of love? Nah, music, music was different.

SPEAKER_01

If we're going back to the music, music, me and J Sarz, we we fucking, it was, it was everything, bro. Right. Like the hood, we shook the hood.

SPEAKER_03

But that doesn't fulfill you, because uh you're glowing, talking about everybody showing you love with the fucking with the with the barbering shit.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, it was the same, it was the same. I was just uh to me, I relate to it more because obviously the life that I live now, it relates, but at the time, the the the rapping shit was the same. Like, that's why I told you to give the people, like everybody that came was love, like we was the Av. You feel me? Big 2-4 shit at the time. It was really like, yo, these boys, old D boys, when O D came out, nigga. Yo, full tank of gas while your bitch on E. J Star suicide, nigga. OD. Posted on the Ave while we smoked the strong weed, nigga. You crazy? Like, it was shut down, bro. You know what I mean? That was the classic, bro. So it was like once we did that, it was like like we marked it, like it was like, oh shit, it it it what we doing right now? Like, yo, these dudes came out with a video. Like, is this the Ave? Like, these boys really like that. So everybody wanted to know what we was on. So niggas wanted to test the powers and the waters. So now we over here beefing with niggas, everybody's trying to catch beef. Now you got other niggas corny, because me and Jason's a natural to this music shit. Like right now, you can drop a B and I can smack it. You feel me? Like, this is I'm a real rapper, you feel me? But like the other day I just dropped of them bowl. A little bit before that, I did a I did an intro song to my to my um Mr. Saving Lives show. Cause I'm like, yo, I'm not gonna be putting other niggas' songs when I can do my own music. I dropped the Mr. Saving Lives intro song, my nigga. You know what I mean? Like, we really like that. So when it came to that, like with the music shit, when we stepped in a party or anything, like, oh shit, them boys is here. And then at that time, 24 was so big that everybody was so unique. United. You feel me? Like everybody was one. Like everybody's, you know, a lot of niggas was trying to ride a wave. I will have to say because a lot of niggas wasn't really solid. Like when it comes to now, you will see that a lot of people wasn't really like that. But the hood was an open space. You feel me? Everybody it was love. You know, I have to say that that was a good time to be alive. Big West 2 Foe shit, you know. Shout out to the app, to the boys, you feel me? Everything was dope, man.

SPEAKER_03

I don't regret nothing. No regrets. Nothing. So where did the transition happen from you're spitting, and then everybody should tell me you're Mr. Saving Lives. And then what do you have a moment where you go like, all right, let me check out the channel.

SPEAKER_01

That transition was easy. Like that trans. Well, it wasn't easy. So still while I was in barber school, my name was still suicide. Cause I didn't, I wasn't still like that figure that I will consider myself kind of like a barber public figure. So, you know what I'm saying? Because before that, I was still suicide. I think I had like suicide boss life or whatever, something like that. I remember I recorded a couple of- It's you, Brando. It's you, you feel me? I recorded a song with Scrappy in a script. Shout out to Scrappy, the homie, too. I recorded a song. I recorded a song with him in a script, snapped, put that shit on SoundCloud, everything was lit. I was still, you know, even while I was cutting hair. But um then it shit started getting real, real. Because I was still, you know, like I told you, I still was smoking all that. Ooh, ooh. And then the pandemic hit, bro. Pandemic. Nah, I would say before the pandemic, I was already on my shit, you know, like mentally. But I I wasn't in like branded yet. I didn't have like the saving lives brand. Yeah, I didn't have the brand like stamped. I I people still call me that, but I didn't run with it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the idea, right, right. The running with it came with the pandemic when you're really saving that.

SPEAKER_01

The pandemic came and I said, boom, but like, I was like, damn, like this shit rings a bell. And it was so, it wasn't just one person because like I told you, everybody's whooping so much, everybody's saying the same thing. It was like somebody tells you a number so much that you're like, damn, let me play in the lottery.

SPEAKER_03

And nothing, I don't know if you even thought about this, but like, you're not just saving their lives with the haircut and like helping their life like outside of that, like with the girl, whatever the fuck their job. At the time, people are locked up, so nobody's having the social interaction. Like, that's why I started growing my hair because my barber got locked up, and I was like, I'm not gonna go with the pandemic, I'm not gonna get haircut by somebody else. Just grow my shit.

SPEAKER_01

That's why that shit was so lit, right? So I took I I took a risk in my crib. I was like, yo, my wife, I had just had a baby in 2019 in November. Pandemic hit. I wasn't really like, uh, whatever. Then I'm locked up two weeks and I'm like, oh now niggas gonna be locked down two months. I'm broke, my nigga. Like, you know, broke, not like, oh, zero dollars, but I'm broke, and the world's ending. I'm like, yo, how am I gonna, you know, in my life? I'm thinking like, yo, I gotta do something. The only thing I know how to do at the time, I don't trap no more. That's not me. I'm a barber, full blown. You know what I did? Opened my backyard and popped it off. I'm talking about I had lines, I'm talking about had people from Naples homestead everywhere, B. You know what I'm saying? That shit was ridiculous. So shit was popping off. I made the most money I ever made in my life, gang. Really? End up on $100 a cut, $150 a cut. I'm talking, imagine, just a quick math. $100, $150 a cut.

SPEAKER_03

Masking up cutting and shit like that? Nah, nah, nah. Cutting.

SPEAKER_01

I'm talking about cutting up to from 15 to 20 people a day, starting at 7 a.m. to like 2 in the morning every day, son.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Easy to stack a day. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Not paying bills, nigga. You know what I'm saying? We the world was ending, my nigga. We're going down in history, baby. You feel me? So, bomb, long story short, pandemic passed. I'm now I'm like ringing stupid bells, nigga. Like, I took the whole social media shit. Before the social media shit was popping with the barbers, I took off. You know what I mean? So now when that shit was over, I'm like, all right, what we gonna do to get this shit out of from the from the ground up. I said, I got an idea. I came up with the Mr. Savan Live show. And that it was up, bro. I'm talking about I went to cut in New York. I took my whole squad with me. Everybody, I had my own brand, everybody had the shirts.

SPEAKER_03

And for those who haven't seen the show, explain to them a little bit what you were doing, like what kind of conversation.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, so um, the Mr. Saving Live show is pretty much based like when it started off. To me, it was an idea, like, yo, let's go to New York. Well, not New York, but New York is home. So I was like, yo, yeah, let me go. But it was so difficult at the time. So I'm like, damn, we're gonna need um everybody, damn, we need vaccines, we need um fucking vaccine cards. It was it was a weird time, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

Logistics, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But we made it happen. Long story short, we got there, everybody had their shirts, and I just started cutting in the streets, my personal homies. So we started doing content in that aspect with, you know, like nice scenery. Feel me? I took them to the hood in the heights, the 191st tunnel. I took them to the stage right there for a wash, you feel me? 187, you know what I'm saying? Like, we was everywhere. So that shit was dope and it went fire. You know, then I took them to my block, I brought out all the homies from my hood. All my shout out to the GSF homies over there 185th, boom, and we was there. Shout out to the OEF bros and 184, you know what I'm saying? So we was there in the block, all the homies came out. I brought all the homies from Miami, so it was unity, talking about I'm combining people, everybody, like it's a whole network, and I'm the center of this shit. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's there to support me, everybody's throwing shirts on, the glue, the saving lives movement. So from now on, when I saw the success from that and everybody supporting, and that shit went so big, I'm like, yo, we gotta keep moving. Now we're going everywhere else. So boom, then I'm like, damn, we gotta do the crib, we gotta do Miami. So I did Miami, I did a little shit in Winwood, shit popped off, it was decent. Then I did some shit in a boat.

SPEAKER_03

And these shit to like the community events, right?

SPEAKER_01

Where you got your own, yeah, everybody, any, any, any, nah, not that one. That comes a little after. This is more like like the community. Anyone could come along. You feel me? Like if you know me, or even if you didn't know me, you want to come support, come through. You you saving lives. You feel me? So boom, everything went lit. I even cut in a jet ski, that shit went viral. Shit was lit. I was in a boat. You know what I'm saying? Then I did some shit like real lit. We went um, what was someplace in Miami where niggas shoot shit. Then we went to the Miami, whatever. We did everywhere in Miami.

SPEAKER_03

Cutting around the places. Shit was dope.

SPEAKER_01

The lit, my my personal favorite, because um one of the members, rest in peace, my cousin Khalido. We love you, baby. Um, we went to LA and that shit was fucking dope. The the show changed. The everything was different there. We went there. I started off with the same, my same shit, how I do it, cutting up one of my man's, and someone came up to me like, yo, you giving cuts? So we ran with that. I'm like, yo, get up, baby. Now we're doing it different. I started cutting up randos. That's cool. So it was lit, you feel me? But it started developing as the shit went. So, nigga, we in LA, we a mob, everybody's wearing the Mr. Saving Live shirts. This shit is popping, bro. I'm talking about it was so lit, my nigga. Like, it felt great. Some lady came up to me, like in the uh in the observatory shit, where you see the Hollywood sign. I'm cutting in the middle of that shit. Uh-huh. And I go, like, if you look at the episode, I don't know if you ever seen it. I'm in the in the Hollywood strip. I'm cutting one of my man's in the middle of the street. And some some some shorty pulls up, and she like, yo, what you doing? Yo, you cutting here. Can I get a cut? Yo, she parked her car, jumped out, and I cut up in the middle of the street of Hollywood, bro. Like, lit. Other people came recording. Yo, it was a whole, it was dope. So it was a definitely a fucking experience, and it was fucking fire. So that brand, the name, Mr. Saving Lives, now is a whole fucking movement. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas want to buy shirts. Like, we a whole movement type shit.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty crazy though. Like a one goes, but it it wasn't like planned like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it wasn't. Yo, to be honest, I never even thought about that shit because I didn't do it with that purpose. Right. But it just happened so naturally. You can see how outside looking in, it feels like that, right? I never noticed it. So one of my clients is like, yo, yo, you literally went from suicide to saving lives. When the nigga told me that, I'm like, oh shit, that's wicked.

SPEAKER_03

That is crazy. That doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I never, I'm like, yo, that shit's fucking wild.

SPEAKER_03

It's a story. For the best movies and shows, it doesn't matter about the story, it's about the characters and their arc. For how do they are at the beginning of the movie to at the end?

SPEAKER_01

And it was to me, that shit was like, yo, I never I never thought about it like that. And and both, they, you know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna say like an all-to-equal, like I'm two different people, I'm the same person, but I got it's two different stories, being your faces, there's eras of your life, different chapters and levels of your life, fool.

SPEAKER_03

You we grow as part of humans. That's that's important to acknowledge that and recognize it, fool. We have to understand our history to understand our future, fool. Like we're 100%. Get it all together, dog. And so we we kind of talked about how being a barber, it's therapeutic for people. As you now, uh, what do you do like with your hair? Are you getting are you cutting yourself though, or do you have a barber you trust?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, nah. I I don't cut my hair up. I believe in the you know, I I I like getting my haircuts, bro. You feel me? There's something special about it, that's why I do it. You feel me? So sitting in a chair, like I told you, is therapeutic, bro. Like, people got you gotta understand everybody is a different story. So when you sit in my chair, you you come with whatever baggage you carry in all day. Feel me? People like, oh, I got a wife at home, but son, you can't tell everything to your wife. You love your kids all day. You can't tell your kids everything. You love your moms, you love your dad, but you can't literally, you can't tell them every single detail. But then there's the barber. You can tell that nigga everything. It's cool. You feel me? Like if it's love, like I told you, I'm a people person. You're gonna identify yourself, especially if you feel comfortable. Like we come from a similar background. Or I I got this shit where I make you feel like, you know what I'm saying, no matter where you're from, because personally, like I said, you know, I'm a New York nigga, I'm a highly nigga, like that's who I am. I'm a hybrid nigga. Feel me? And I'm full-blown Dominican. So I could do that shit. So wherever you come from, like I could relate to you, and you know what I'm saying. I do a lot of I won't say I do a lot of research, but I'm like big and like I said, learning like from other cultures. So when someone sits on my chair and they're going through some shit, I just I let them niggas vent. And and and whatever is at my reach that I could drop jewels on them, I do it. Which most of the time is good. I I'm obviously in the goat when it comes to cutting hair. I'm really fucking like that. Skill-wise, niggas is not fucking with me. So you know what I'm saying? Last one of my clientels on top tier level. Like, I can't even breathe. My wife gotta call me, like, can I get some time with you? You feel me? Like, what's good? But um, as far as that, that shit, I I I would say as a barber personally, that's more important than the actual skin.

SPEAKER_03

Being able to talk to the people and being able to listen.

SPEAKER_01

100%. 100%. Yo, talk to your people, man. You don't know what they're going through. Shit is rough out here. How do you cut your hair? Who do you talk to? When is your time? Uh, I mean, I I'm in a barbershop, B, so I'm talking all the time. You feel me? I got I got my good friends, you feel me? So a lot of them niggas, they I've been there 13 years now. So I I say a good amount of them niggas, I could not a good amount, because you can't trust everybody, even if you've been with them a lot. You have you have your squad. I got my little squad that I could, you know what I'm saying? I could talk to them boys. You feel me? And I get my little cut. I don't I don't cut myself though, nah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. And what what's it like like seeing people grow through life as a as their barber? Because I'm sure you've what's the longest you've been cutting somebody?

SPEAKER_01

No, I you I've been the longest is since I started. It's like 10, right?

SPEAKER_03

So like you're cutting somebody at least. Nah, like 12, 13 years.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, I've been cutting people since before I was in a shop. Remember, I told you Nelson, my boy Brian, shout out to Brian, you feel me? A couple of dudes. But um, yeah, like, you know, 14, 15 years.

SPEAKER_03

So what's it like seeing like their lives change? You feel me? Like, how do they start?

SPEAKER_01

It's really dope. I I will say is it's more transitional and more not as in a uh, because people that are my age, you know, you see them more like kids. That's where it really hits you. I've cut up kids since their first haircuts. Oh, really? You're awesome. Imagine if I cut a kid at one year's old, he's 13 now. That's right.

SPEAKER_03

This nigga's in middle school. Yeah, so not a good one.

SPEAKER_01

Or if I cut him when he was in elementary, he graduated high school. Like, this nigga's I'm I'm giving him advice through his whole life. I'm like his uncle. I'm an unc now, you heard? That word is born. So like I'm dropping jewels since the nigga was young. Like, he'll be like, damn, bro. I remember when you used to tell me this in middle school. And now I'm going to the army. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember when you saved me from making this move because I've lived it.

SPEAKER_03

That's cool.

SPEAKER_01

So if I could give you a jewel that's gonna save you a hard time, nigga, why not drop it? That's that's what's fucked up with this time now. Niggas don't want to drop jewels, bro. It's free game, baby.

SPEAKER_03

And then all these years of cutting hair, what's a pet peeve? Something that annoys you or that clients do when you when you're cutting hair. What's something you'd prefer clients not do moving forward?

SPEAKER_01

Damn clients, uh, I don't know, dog. This is it's a lot of fucked up shit.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go off on the what's the one that bothers you a lot or whatever. It don't have to be the most, but like the same shit.

SPEAKER_01

That niggas bother you. You know what I don't like, though? I hate people that are they're not um appreciative of me, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've lost I I've lost people, for example, like I'm real, like niggas, you know how now barbers have like an app and shit? Yeah, like, oh, you got a book through there, which is mad corner. Yeah, it's one of them shits. I don't do that, right? For the simple fact that I'm old school, because how you've been my client for 10 years every week or every two weeks, and you call me one day because yo, the app is full, and I'll tell you now I can't cut you because I'm booked. How the fuck is that? And you got an emergency or something. You go, you see how that sounds like you I got an emergency.

SPEAKER_03

Completely different service, right? Yeah, you're absolutely different.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, yo, dah, I need a cut, but oh no, I can't. If it's booked on the app, I can't book you. Long story short, where I'm going to with this is like, yo, fam, if if I'm always there for you, like, it don't matter when it is. I cut to two in the morning, I'm always looking out, and one day or a couple times I'm late, and you want to dub me, like, and you want to just switch sides on me, because I'm late a couple times, but you don't take into consideration all the times I looked out for you, that shit right there irks me. It was what I was telling you earlier. Nigga, loyalty, that big L nigga goes in every single aspect of life. Feel me? Love is cool, but loyalty, scrap. You feel me? You could be in the streets, you could be in whatever line of work you in, but loyalty, bro, niggas don't forget about that shit, bro. Cause when you loyal, bro, if you down, son, I got you, bro. If you hungry, I got you. If you thirsty, I got you, fam, because you stuck with me from the bottom. So this niggas that was with me, niggas that didn't judge me, nigga. I got a lot of people tell you I switched on me like, oh, this nigga think his shit don't stink. Oh, this nigga think he popping, like, nah, nigga, I'm just I'm just moving on up, son. What you doing, it's not with me no more, son. Like, sticking with you might get me in trouble, gang. So you gotta respect me. So the niggas that respected that when I was, you know, I consider it growth. You know what I'm saying? And if you fuck with me, you consider it growth. When you're in the middle and you evolving, a lot of niggas not gonna like that, son. You know what I'm saying? So when niggas, when you growing, you gonna notice that shit. Shit gives me goosebumps, gang. You feel me? Because people, people, people, bro, people are envious, bro. People are ugly, son. You feel me? And you only get to realize that shit when shit starts to get real. And when you need to, you need to start, you know, when you evolving, you need to be selfish with yourself.

SPEAKER_03

Because you have to be selfish with yourself to your own. You have to, bro.

SPEAKER_01

You have to. And then the niggas that are gonna, the niggas that respect that, even though they run rock in the way they rock it, those are the people that you're gonna lock in for life.

SPEAKER_03

Quality time of quality people, my brother. Not every $100 cut is worth it. You feel me? Sometimes the one ahead eye and annoyance that comes with that person, you feel me, isn't worth it, dog.

SPEAKER_01

I had to tell you that that's that's that's another lesson of life. Bro, I've been to so many lessons in this life, boy. Like I told you, you know, I went through ups and downs. Everything is ups and downs, even with this barbershit. Life. I was at a peak, nigga. I told you with this Mr. Save Alive shit, I was at my peak. I'm telling you, nobody was fucking with that shit online.

SPEAKER_03

Sure, a stock of day in COVID is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, I'm talking about like now when I told you when I ran with that show shit, we was, yo, Mr. Save Alive Moments. Niggas know. We was like that. It got to a point, I'm not a robot. It got to a point where it was too much just for me. Too much, bro. Like, I didn't have a life. Which I was cool with, nigga, because I'm a hustler. I've been a hustler since before that. Nigga, I was trapped all night, you feel me? But um, I had to slow down, so I slowed down on the ground because all that shit is revolving, you feel me? I need it's more and more and more people. So I stopped posting. So when I stopped posting, and I kind of, you know, I'm at my wife, all that shit. But I stopped posting, the people that came just because of that, because of the hype, started disappearing. Again, loyalty's not there. You feel me? So boom, I'm maturing now as a human, now I'm maturing as a barber. Now you niggas, when I you used to call me and I got 10 heads that yo squeeze me in and I'll do it. Now, after you know the hype down down, yeah, I disappear. Y'all want to come back. Y'all don't get that same love no more, baby. Because you're not real, son.

SPEAKER_03

So only so many people can get that service of love too, though, dog. Like you have to be realistic with yourself, dog. Well, me personally, I try to give it to everybody. You could, but but the whole point is, and once somebody does does your dirt, like you gotta make that space for somebody who hasn't done your dirty.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly, exactly. So I started maturing, dawg, and um, everything is going great right now, baby. I can't complain. Life is good, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03

Life is good, baby.

SPEAKER_01

Life is good. We're blessed to be here.

SPEAKER_03

Real shit, real shit. What's an advice you'd give to somebody just getting into Barbary now? Just getting into cutting hair.

SPEAKER_01

I will give an advice to someone just getting in right now. Uh get into social media. Well, personally, first, do your school shit, you know what I'm saying? Get your license because go to school. Yeah, yeah, go to school, but because I say go to school because you need your license. A lot of these places, now when I started, they will let you slide without a thing. Even if you have clientele, they'll let you slide. But go to school first off. How long is school more or less for barbering? Like a year? 1200 hours. You have to get the colour.

SPEAKER_03

It's about how serious you take the school. About a year, about a year. So most people on average do a year.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, about a year, about a year. But I will say, most importantly, bro, just really take your crap serious, man. Like, don't try to crow, don't try to run before you crawl. You feel me? Like, it's very important for you to pay attention to other barbers, the way they maneuver themselves. Every client that sits in your chair is a potential client every week. You feel me? And a referral. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And a referral to remote.

SPEAKER_01

But these new barbers want to cut a nigga mad fast, and then that's it. You lost that nigga.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you get you fuck even close to fucking on my hair. I'll never fuck with you again.

SPEAKER_01

If you cut a nigga good, or even if he feels like you're trying, that happened to me when I first started. You know, I that's another thing. Before I even did the Mr. Saving Live show, that wasn't my first what got me popping. It was cutting celebrities. I used to cut mad NFL players, bro. I'm talking about I got over 20 NFL players under my belt. And then I remember cutting up um the YBM squad. That shit got me up there too. YBN Corday, that was the well, Cordae now, he was the homie, like direct line. Like every time he touched home, the homie, woo, what up, Alice, whoo, came through, cut him up. Um a few rappers. I I remember I cut up, um, I don't know if you know Field Mob. Yeah, but I cut up the skinny yeah, Field Mob. You not the bald one, the other homie, um, who I cut up.

SPEAKER_03

How do you get how do you get these connections? Well social media?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, that shit was that the way I opened that pipeline was I was sitting in the back, bro. I was in the last chair of the barbershop, right? And um this one lady walks in. Her name is Pam. Shout out to Pam. She walks in, nobody wanted to cut her. She looks crazy, woo. I was like, yo, come through. Cut her up. That was the pipeline, gang. Cut her up. Like I told you, I'm a people first. I wasn't even all that nice, but I gave her my 100%. I was already evolving. Yo, after that, like two weeks later, she called me, yo, I got this NFL player here. I didn't know her husband was like the, you know those people like before you sign on the NFL that they take you in when you're in the combine. He's not an agent. It's like a scout. Yeah, like someone that feeds you like for a percent that has you living good. And he was that dude. So I'm talking about, yo, every NFL player, they lived in a mansion. I'm over there cutting everybody, and that that that was the home team, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Water connect, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

So from there everything was open. Like them people brought me. I'm talking about parties with two chains one-on-one, like the whole nine, bro. It was it was it was a movie. And that was way before the Save and Live shit. That's when I'm like, yo.

SPEAKER_03

That's your first taste of motion, like online with haircuts.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, of motion. Yeah, oof. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We're cutting hair.

SPEAKER_01

And I was cutting a lot of NFL players, bro. Um, Rest in Peace Ronald, too, one of the NFL players used to cut.

SPEAKER_03

So, so build like a brand as a barber. Make something, you know, build something bigger than just cutting haircuts, you feel me? And also take your time. That's mad important.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say, yeah, um, every client, like I said, is a different sort. That that's further, they're not there yet, but every client is important. Every client deserves your time and respect. Don't try to rush this person to get the next one. You feel me? Like, those $20 you're trying to, you might make a hundred that day rushing. Or remember, well, not $20, niggas is charging, they charge about $35, $40 or whatever. If you make that $40 good and he likes you, that's $40 every week or every two weeks. And if you make at least if you make a client every day, one that locks in with you, that's five in a week. If you do that for two months, every single day, nigga, you got about nigga, you got a lot of clients, bro. Crazy book of business. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But you have to be good at your shit. Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_01

You you have to really take this shit serious. You know, a lot of people doing it for the money. A lot of people don't last long. When I started in barber school, I would have to say from barber school, only like three niggas really made it and me. Wow, out of how out of like 40-50. God damn. Yo, this shit ain't for everybody, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And uh, do you remember what type of beat you beatboxed that time you and Jay started met Jay Cole on the beach?

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit. That's fire, bro. Yo, we met him twice, though, you know? Really? What? Yo, yo, but yeah, it was like, yo, it was like we was meant to see this nigga, bro. Nah, nah, nah, like different occasions in the same place. What the fuck? So me and Jay, we used to go to the beach, you know, street uh partying, you know, a little extra shit. So we then boom, like by the literally go to the beach and we see Jay Cole, right? And we went to Shorty, she like an airhead, son, right?

SPEAKER_03

The one that recorded it or didn't record it. The one that failed to record it, the girl that pulled out the phone could be. Okay, whatever. The girl didn't.

SPEAKER_01

But the girl that was there, she's like, yo, who are you? Are you a basketball player? We looked at this bitch like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with you, son? I don't know J. Cole. Like, you know, it wasn't like J. Cole was he was big already.

SPEAKER_03

Who that who that was all like? But he just got signed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't like airhead shorty fire, you know? You had to like kind of really be into music. Yeah, no, you don't know hip hop, you need no bars. They fried, you know? Bar days, and they fried. But um, long story short, I always been really nice. That's that's how the music shit opened up for me. Like when I was a kid, I used to go to mainstream when I got here from the I always knew how to beatbox, you feel me? Really? Yeah, yeah, that's my shit. I love to do to do that shit. So then we there, Jay already knows that I'm like that. You know, that's my man. Like Jay always been like with the rapper shit. Obviously, he was on top, you feel me? So, and I never, never, it's a big homie. Like it's my bro, you feel me? So he's like on that. So he always got shit ready, written down. You feel me? Somebody got a beatbox.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm catching up.

SPEAKER_01

So the nigga gets in, boom, Jay's like, yo, what up? Can I spit some bars to you or whatever? And that nigga's like, he no, Jay told a nigga, I remember that shit like right now. He like, yo, what's up, bro? Like, what's on the spit sign? Like, spit sign for him, like, yo, I won't rap. He told him humbly, but I'll listen to you. So boom, and he like, I bet. So, you know, Jay didn't tell me B box.

SPEAKER_03

Real shit, too, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Jay, Jay didn't tell me, yo, B box Sue. Like, I'm like, nah, nigga, go ahead and run that. Boom, and I drop it. Hey y'all. You feel me? So that shit was crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, ooh, he dropped some fire shit on him. And um, that shit was lit, dog. That nigga's like, yo, you killed it. Real humble, yo. J. Cole, the way I see him online and on TV, that nigga carries himself. He's personally like how he does it real life. Yeah, dog. That nigga is a real, like, calm, dude. Like, it's so cool. Like, it's a vibe, son. And then we seen him some other time on the strip, though. He had jumped out of a woo-woo-woo. And I gotta believe that the nigga recognized us. Cause it was He did? It was like in a short period of time, like probably like a month or two. You know, I'm talking about like spring break, summer. So we probably seen him at spring break, then we seen him in summer. Feel me? So we seen him and we kind of remember like, yo, we the niggas there. Ooh. He's like, oh, yeah, I remember y'all niggas. And it was love, but he was, you know, he was in motion. So he showed us love. He didn't just didn't acknowledge us, you feel me? Ooh, boom, and kept it pushing.

SPEAKER_03

He could have just not remembered you or whatever. So that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

But it was dope. No, he could have not remembered us. He could have been living a high life, you feel me? He didn't have to say, yo, I remember you. The whole point of this shit is that the nigga showed us love, nigga. Even if he fucking didn't remember us, but he made it seem like he did, and it was dope. You feel me?

SPEAKER_03

If you're watching, please come out of retirement, dog. Come on, man. You saved my life and saved me out of the pressure for music, dog. We need those bars, man. Real shit, real shit, real shit.

SPEAKER_00

100%.

SPEAKER_03

And uh how how does getting on Caso Cerrado work?

SPEAKER_01

Yo, nigga, I forgot that shit was in my life. Oh shit, that was dope. Yo, that that shit right there put me on some other shit too. So I was already rapping and this shit. Boom. This was night school days.

SPEAKER_03

Night school days. Night school.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, this is before all the mass shit. Like this before OD. Wow. All that. You know what I mean? Yeah, nigga. I was still in the gardens. No, no. Was I? Oh, I was in high school and I was in the I don't know, nigga. It was around that time. School time, right? Okay. So I was still right. School shit. Nigga, I remember um, boom, we're getting all myself ready. I'm I'm hype. So I used to go out with the shorty, right? Um, boom, I bag though, whatever. And um, like I told you, I'm a fucking people person. So I'm I'm with the shorty. They pick me up on my crib or her and her dad. Ah, let's go to rap. It's a shorty I met on lap. Rap is water for nice. Shout out rap. Rap is wrong. I'm with the shorty and the dad, as soon as he meets me that we're hanging out, he's like, yo, my nigga, I want you on the show. Like, you know, I guess he was one of those producers, the people that they got to be cool. He was the dude, dude. And he liked your energy. Yo, that nigga loved me, son. So I'm like, yo, listen, I'll do that shit as long as you have me rapping on live TV. Like, that was me, nigga. I need to. I'm a natural nigga. I'll be on TV and say whatever the fuck you want me to say, gang. So boop, I broke up with Shorty. Me and her broke up. Yo, my nigga, like, we not together. Nigga hits me up like a month later. Yo, what up? You ready? Like, if we was homies, nigga, you hurt?

SPEAKER_03

It's great.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, I'm like, hell yeah, I'm ready. He like, yo, look, I need you to get this, like, get a mom, or you could get your own mom. Uh like, you know, get our baby moms. Uh-huh. And um, whatever. So I'm like, I get my people lined up, nigga. We go over there. All your people, the baby moms, everybody was there. Yeah, yeah, like the people he told me that I need, like, for to build the case that he needed. Yeah, right, right, right. Long story short, nigga, my mom's a fucking natural. Like me, that's what I did. So you really got your mom? Yeah, I got my mom. I got my cousin, she was my baby mom's, and I got my and I got my boy. That's cool. So, whatever we do, the show. The show was so lit, me and my mom were so natural that we actually executed it and we used real details. So it came out so fucking natural. Like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

So make it believable, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's what the real actors do. It was natural, but we we practically, they were like, damn, let's just run with the real shit. So boom, we did that. Long story short, the show was a banger, and then it's time for us to rap. You know, I had some shit written, right? This shit is so fire, bro. Like, yo, you just brought me back to some fire shit. So we and fucking, we about to perform. I'm here with one of the homies. I give him a chance, because you know, we rapping, ooh, I spit the shit, killed it. That nigga choked, bro. He couldn't rap, bro. I'm like, you know.

SPEAKER_03

It's a live audience, right?

SPEAKER_01

Live, you know what I'm saying? He couldn't rap, and I'm like, uh, uh, you know what? Nigga, I had to freestyle, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Any freestyle?

SPEAKER_01

I killed it. Freestyle. Y'all got it. That's cool.

SPEAKER_03

That's a great story.

SPEAKER_01

I freestyle the shit. Boom. When I finished, it was so ill because when I freestyle, freestyle with what's around me. And, you know, we're talking about what it is. Like, I'm not gonna freestyle about some shit that happened to you. You really freestyle. You really freestyle. I freestyle this shit. You really freestyle. Like, ooh, audiencia, ooh, Doctor Apolo, y todo el mundo sofocado, I vaina. She was like, yo, tu tienes algo especial. Like, yo, it was fucking, like, it was fire, bro. Because you know, I'm like, I would have to say I can rap in English, but my my my gift is I rap in Spanish. I'm ill in Spanish, baby. You know what I mean? Really?

SPEAKER_03

That's what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

But I got the Spanglish shit. So when it comes to this trap house, like trap, like when the trap shit popped off in New York with the Spanish trap, I was already evolving, so I didn't really take it that serious. But nigga, I I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I don't like to say shit like that, but them niggas can't fuck with me, son. Like, I don't spit, bro. Now you got the motion, you got the platforms, you got to send like the other day. I was like, yo, I need I need a little bit of boost, and I dropped that damn bow and I destroyed it. Nigga, I don't know if you heard it, the Miami shit. No, I gotta hear it. No, that shit is fucking crazy, bro. You didn't you yo you put it on the ground? Yo, it's fire. I gotta see it. Nigga, I destroyed that shit, then bow. Everybody came out of the donks nigga, like I destroyed that shit, nigga. Yo, I hit them niggas with Oh yeah, come on. Yo see rapper revolver. Nigga, that shit is lit. Yo, bro, I really do this shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? So, like niggas really can't fuck with me, like niggas can't really touch me about this music shit. Like, but like I say, it's all love. Like, if niggas really wanna like I people don't really come at me like how they came before, like, you know, it's really all love. I would have to say I'm like a bridge now. Like, I'm so imprinted in the community that wherever there was beef or like you know, like common love, like niggas that know each other, there's no beef. Like, if they see shit in the shop, I'll be like, yo, look, this is the homie. Oh shit, that shit was like 15 years ago. Like, ooh. And it's love, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So that's what it's all about, nigga. We spread, I'm at a point in life, and that's why I did. I I never really assembled that. I never told you what it was. My Saving Live show is based on spreading positivity, you know what I'm saying? And um, if you look at my shit, I'm really trying to tell the youth that there's more to life. Like you could really get this money without having to hit the streets. You feel me? I'm sorry about that. You can really hit the street, you can really get this money without hitting the streets, you feel me? Like being a barber is it's a fucking gift. You know what I'm saying? You don't really gotta hit them streets, you don't gotta do that. Nigga, I'm trapping, I'm there all day, bro. The more work you put in, the more money you're gonna get. So the people that I'm trying to reach is the youth. There's more to life than getting to the streets, you can get to this money. You feel me? That's what it's all about. So I'll spread positivity. I don't even listen to that drill shit, bro. I I got a whole kid, you feel me? So life taught me with my personal experience. I want to be able to drop that down because it's jewels. And us as humans, we should be able to do that. I'm saying other little niggas don't gotta go through what we went through if you could drop the jewels. Obviously, 90% of them are not gonna take it, but if you can save one or two, I'm cool with that. Grown man, shit. You feel me? So that's what I do. My saving life shit is about that. You know what I'm saying? So you know, if you and me personally, Mr. Saving Lives, if you cutting here and you need some help, come holla at me for free. I got you. Free game, baby. You sit next to me, I got you. This is what I do. Where's the shop at, man? I'm in um Pembroke Road in Flamingo, Mr. Cutz. Shout out to Mr. Cutz, man, the big homie, the Empire. You feel me? So we are um Mr. Cutz Barbershop. Um Vamos a desware.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we drop like that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, anyways, fuck that. We are Mr. Cutz. Any young dude that needs some help or need anything, you come holler at me, I'll get you right. You feel me? Free of charge, man.

SPEAKER_00

We here to save your life, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're here to save your life in general. It's a way of life, baby. It's not this shit ain't this shit ain't no games, man. We here, it's a way of life, be. And it don't matter. Um my baby's six. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

Like, amen, my brother.

SPEAKER_01

So it's a way of life. It don't matter how old you is either, man. Anybody that wanna come and chop it up, son, check on your family. B. You know, mental health is fucked up right now. Nigga could be laughing with you right now, son. And you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Going through it.

SPEAKER_01

The roughest part about being a barber, you know what it is? Losing niggas.

SPEAKER_00

Damn it.

SPEAKER_01

I got so much motion, bro. So much motion, but niggas don't ask me, yeah, what happened to that? When niggas ask, yo, what happened to that nigga? Nigga died, bro. Nigga got murked, a nigga died, feel me? Over, like, I'm talking about massive clients, bro, that I've lost. Feel me? And that shit takes a toll on you, B, because I told you every person is a different story, so that shit. I gotta sleep with that shit.

SPEAKER_03

Sucks knowing the stories ended when the story's gonna go further and longer, man. RP to those aren't with us anymore, dog.

SPEAKER_01

Amen, my brother.

SPEAKER_03

Um, we end every episode with uh with the game, the big three draft game. And uh we've done before iconic hairstyles. I would say, what? What are some haircuts or some people's hairs that you think we'll never see them like get a haircut? Like, I don't think I've ever gonna see Trump get a haircut, right?

SPEAKER_01

Uh Trump, Trump, Trump got a hair piece. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

So we'll probably never gonna get a box. Shout out to Mr.

SPEAKER_01

Cutz, he does hair pieces too. We do it all with it. S P. That's wrong, everything. We do everything.

SPEAKER_03

All my hair piece people.

SPEAKER_01

Everything. Y'all do the SP SP, yeah. I do SP myself. The black guy. No, SP is uh the tattoo. Microprimentation. Oh, the the hair, the the tattoo area. Scout microprimination. That's another. If you hear my other joint that I told you, I did a song for to it's uh like I got the Mr. Saving Live show, I did an intro for my shit. I'm like, yo, I'm I'm my own artist. Like, I don't need niggas, I don't need to put a biggie song to start off my own show when I can fucking rap. You know what I mean? So I did that. I even talk about that day. Like, you know what I mean? Fire. Like, if you hear that shit, I'm talking about everything.

SPEAKER_03

That's gangster. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

You got his own theme song.

SPEAKER_01

I got my own theme song, baby. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's what I do.

SPEAKER_03

Niggas can't talk to me about nothing. What are some iconic hairs? Uh we're gonna go one by one. We're gonna pick iconic hair hairstyles that people usually just kind of keep forever, like dredge or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

People that haircuts that keep forever, man. It depends. One by one, one of the things. It depends where you're from. Let's start by that.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So if you're from you from High Leah, high skin fade, my bad. You know what it is, baby. That shit is forever. That's right. This is gonna be the classic extra. Let me just two and a high skin. Skin fade, high and skin. That's some high learn shit. That's forever. You know, niggas just chicoed out. Let's just say that's some Chico shit. So you always gonna see that one, at least in our part of town. Or like in South Florida, you're always gonna see at least one or two niggas.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, eventually you go Baldy, right, right. What else? What's another common one? Right, and then Baldi. What's your first pick? Baldi. Baldi. I think Baldi everywhere. It's a natural part of life.

SPEAKER_01

Everybody eventually, you want me to pick my first, like iconic that everybody is a neutral all around. I would say a blowout.

SPEAKER_03

A blowout.

SPEAKER_01

Like a three-in-a-blower.

SPEAKER_03

A three and a blowout.

SPEAKER_01

Everybody you're gonna see that in any city, it's a haircut that everybody, so at least a few, I would say a good amount of people are gonna have. Because it's such a neutral haircut. You feel me? It's not so shot out. It's clean, it's fire, it's always in style. You gotta understand a fade is like too shot out because not everybody likes to be rap out.

SPEAKER_03

That's my first pick. A fade.

SPEAKER_01

A fade is gangster. MLA niggas like that Southside fade. They go a little bit too high. Like fades are in, but always so shot out. You feel me? That just scream street niggas. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What's your second pick then?

SPEAKER_01

My second, well, iconic?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, like like that, everybody will rock, that it's always gonna be in style. I think that's the right way to frame it. Always gonna be in style. Most timeless haircuts. And you gotta keep that that question.

SPEAKER_03

Hair styles.

SPEAKER_01

That question is because um style is like it's like clothing, right? That shit is revolving. It will go out, but it's coming back. It's like niggas.

SPEAKER_03

That's why it's a good draft, though. There's no right or wrong answer. There's no right or wrong answer. It's your it's your picks.

SPEAKER_01

Like, you know, I just cut my hair, but your braids is always gonna be popping. You feel me? Braids, braids are good. Breads are always gonna be. This is cool. What's up? Y'all can do braids in the house. 100%, man. Shout out to Cuban Link and me, my man, Red Butter Peekin', man. Check them out on the gram. Best braiders in town. I need them, bro. I need a couple.

SPEAKER_02

I need a kick.

SPEAKER_01

Female. Female. Shout out to Cuban Link and Red Butter Peekin' on the gram, man. They're the best in Miami. South Florida, the goats. Y'all look them up, man. They drop the biggest.

SPEAKER_03

We're gonna drop the tie right here for them. We're gonna drop the tie for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody else you want to drop shout-outs for them?

SPEAKER_01

Man, best braiders in town, man. Shout out to Cuban Link, Red Butter Peekin', the best in town, man. You already know, man. Shout out to Mr. Cutz, SP's Hair Solutions, Goats. You already know, man. We're here in your boy, the one and only, Mr. Saving Lives, bat.

SPEAKER_03

And what about the gang? Everybody supporting the Saving Lives Movement.

SPEAKER_01

Man, it's so many people to mention, but I have to, I'm gonna give one special shout out. Because it's he would have been here with me right now, but he's so in motion, man. Shout out to Chico Suave. Chico Suave always supported me when it comes to this Mr. Saving Lives Movement. He's just at my corner every time. I'm not gonna say he's the only one. There's a lot of people that supported me along the way. A lot of people, a lot. But Chico Suave, hey, for everybody, anybody that knows knows Chico Suave is always next to me, man. Shout out to that boy.

SPEAKER_03

Takes a village, I'll take the team for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. So we left off with Fade. Your first pick was the blowout. Blowout 100%. Your second pick, braids. Yeah. My second pick. Something is never gonna go out of style. You said it earlier. What was it? Dreds. Dreds, dreads, yeah. Dreds is dreads is the second pick. Yeah, dreads. And dreads is something low-key. Some people get dreads and just never cut hairs. Yeah, keep them forever. So what's your third pick?

SPEAKER_01

I will say like more of a gentleman's cuts. Gentleman's cuts are always gonna be there. You know what I'm saying? Gentleman's cut is either like a slick back or a comb over, you know, not too loud, like a three-two on the side. You feel me? Because remember, everybody don't have the same jobs, you feel me? And that's a haircut I've been here for centuries. If you think about it, the fifth. Yeah, like yo, everybody's been having that forever. They just spice it up a little bit with a fade, but it's always there. A little bit of scissors on top. I love it, I love it. You know what it is, so you know that that's forever. I I would have to say realistically, that's probably number one, bro. Because it's people still in this modern time doing what people did. People didn't do that in the 40s, 50s, even before that time. People didn't have no blowouts.

SPEAKER_00

The prohibition era cut. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

And people have them now, and them shits is gonna be there forever because you gotta understand the hair don't change. Right. Well, it changes. Let me rephrase it. It changes when you mix cultures and stuff like that. But I mean, like, there's always gonna be that type of hair.

SPEAKER_03

Your hair's still here, yeah. Facts factor. There's not much you can change too. You feel me?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, much that could change, yeah. There's the mecla loco, la mecla de la gente, moreno, con un blanco, don Moreno, el tuman de el cabello viene de la gente, come yo. That is true. That's what it is. But that type of hair is always gonna be there. Film is what I'm trying to tell you. So that shit's always gonna be there. Even if they spice it up a bit, it's always gonna be there. I'm about to say gentlemen's cuts for the most iconic.

SPEAKER_02

That is good.

SPEAKER_03

My third, my third pick, then I'm gonna say. Oh, it's three of them. Three is the big three drive. Oh shit. The big three drive.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I bet.

SPEAKER_03

I started saying Baldy because I think Baldy is like I feel like everybody eventually not everybody, but you know, a lot of people eventually go down that path. But I feel it's I started, but I took it back because he said fade and I stole that pick. Yeah. So third, I think a legendary cut. Damn, you just said something right now. I got my mind thinking, and then I fucking knocked. Oh no! What do people you know what the Edgar is? Of course. Do people walk in asking for the Edgar? Or is there a better name for it?

SPEAKER_01

100%. Edgar, there was, you know, some people now because they make it all right. Yeah, a lot of people, it was a good wave, but you know the Edgar, that shit comes from like over there, Texas and shit. That's just really gangster.

SPEAKER_03

That's probably what they're gonna do.

SPEAKER_01

Like they get they get kicked out of school and shit, like they're gonna be edged.

SPEAKER_03

Edgar's the tough kid. Edgar's the tough kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The Super Bowl?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, the Edgar is the mushroom. That's how it started. The mushroom with a little blow-up, but then it started evolving. Ed girl with like more style, and now these niggas don't even cut their hair. Like, this is the Edgar. Let me see there. Type shit, right? Nah, not that. That. Yeah, no, no. It's this this guy. It's this guy. Yeah, but now that's an evolved Edgar. Yeah, that's a swagger edgar. That's an evolved edgar. That's just not how it started. It was more like the mushrooms with the blowout, all these shits with the Converse and the You know that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the Edgar's crazy. The Edgar's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think it's timeless, but I'm gonna make a joke here, and I think the Edgar's fucking hilarious. The name of the Edgar is hilarious. Yeah, yeah. That'll be my third picket. And one last message for the people out there, dog. One last message you want to close off with.

SPEAKER_01

Ah man, just stay positive. Whatever you're doing, stick to it. You feel me? It's the most important. The most important thing I could tell a person is, you know, stay close to family, stay consistent, dog. Consistency is everything, dog. Keep your loved ones close. And just, you know, a lot of love, baby. That's what it is, baby. That's all I can say. Positivity, baby.

SPEAKER_03

And if you're here already, you're pretty consistent, because I'm sure you were here last week. And if not, subscribe, like the video, and we'll see you next week.

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